gaming computer

[courage1]

I'm going to start this off by saying i can NOT build my own set up and I'm not looking for the most high preformence computer I'm looking for a computer that will run any game decently.

will these specs do so? Windows 8 64
3rd Generation Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 quad-core processor [3.4GHz, 8MB Shared Cache]
8GB DDR3-1333MHz SDRAM [2 DIMMs]
1TB 7200 rpm SATA hard drive
2GB Nvidia GTX680 [Dual Brackek; DVI, HDMI, DP & VGA via adapter]
600W Power supply
Wireless-N LAN card (1x1)
15-in-1 memory card reader, 2 USB 2.0 (front), 2 USB 3.0 (top)

it's the HP ENVY h8-1420t Desktop PC customized. 1700$ with shipping. i know it's quite a bit cheaper to build it but i don't want to deal with the headache

thanks.

[courage1]

by the way that price come's with an HD screen mouse&keyboard speakers. and a 2 year warrenty.

[Merc1138]

It's a lot cheaper to build and components only fit one way. It's easier to put together than a lego set, and the windows install is a wizard that requires you to hit the "next" button a couple of times.

edit: BTW, I just priced out an intel i7-3770 with 16GB of RAM, 1TB SATA HDD, gtx 680, dvd burner, corsair 650 watt power supply, windows 8 64 bit, for $1400 shipped including tax and not including and extra $20 mail in rebate.

Of course I can't forget the $10 card reader, just about any case that runs $40-$80 will work, and you didn't specify the monitor very clearly so tack on any $200 24" 1080p monitor. The OEM mouse/KB/speakers you're getting with that prebuilt system are likely junk(and under $50 total).

Now that's without actually looking for deals(could get the same specs for much less if if I actually spent more than 3 minutes pricing it out) and ending up with better specs than you priced out for less, and only requires a half hour of your time to use a screwdriver and mindlessly click the "next" button.

[courage1]

It's a lot cheaper to build and components only fit one way. It's easier to put together than a lego set, and the windows install is a wizard that requires you to hit the "next" button a couple of times.

how much cheaper..

[Merc1138]

how much cheaper..

Reload the page and check what I edited into my post

Like I said, you could still do better than that on pricing if you were to actually look for deals(like finding free shipping deals, better rebates, sites with no CA sales tax, browsing fatwallet.com forums, etc.)

[courage1]

Reload the page and check what I edited into my post

Like I said, you could still do better than that on pricing if you were to actually look for deals(like finding free shipping deals, better rebates, sites with no CA sales tax, browsing fatwallet.com forums, etc.)

what do i do when i get all this and i do everything and i have a problem that i cant fix?

[Horton Fenty]

what do i do when i get all this and i do everything and i have a problem that i cant fix?

Been a long time since I purchased a pc but I don't ever remember getting any help from the manufacturer. No anything that I would call helpful anyway. So really your not going to end up at a disadvantage by assembling your own. That's how easy it is by the way....you assemble a pc, not build it.

[Merc1138]

what do i do when i get all this and i do everything and i have a problem that i cant fix?

You contact technical support for the component with the issue?

[NissanPreRunner]

Its not as hard as it sounds to put together a computer and maintain it. Its almost like building your own gun

[Merc1138]

Pretty much that's what you do. Its not as hard as it sounds to put together a computer and maintain it.

Yeah, but people like to assume they get no tech support, warranty, etc. Everything has been made to fit in only one direction or has been color coded for years. Save a couple hundred bucks, get better individual components, and don't waste the difference for a half hour's worth of labor(if you're slow about it) as if you can't do the same job some unskilled laborer with no education can do at a factory in China.

[billofrights]

Don't build your own. I fully respect what Merc is saying and he's 100% correct but if you don't care to or aren't comfortable it'll go from you embarking on a project you enjoy to a constant headache. At least you'll get a warranty, for what it's worth.

The machine you spec'd out is pretty decent but I'd bump up the RAM as far as you can afford, go with either 16 or 32 gb. RAM is fairly inexpensive and is a huge performance booster, especially in games. I just spent close to $4k building a new gaming computer and from the time I turn it on until I'm playing Borderlands 2 is around 1 minute. Also, I'd strongly recommend putting in a smaller (128-256gb) SSD and then just use that 1Tb drive as storage space. It will make a big difference in performance.

I've built every computer I've owned for the past 15 years. I do network support for a university and I used to work for a system builder where I'd put together upwards of 30 PCs a day. So I'm comfortable doing it. I would NEVER try and dissuade someone from taking that leap and learning a new skill, but you mentioned that's not what you're looking to do. I know how to change the oil on my car too, but it's not worth my time to do it myself.

If you do decide to build one yourself feel free to PM me for any tips or advice.

[0351USMC]

I would probably go with 750w+ Power Supply,if you decided to add 2nd GPU later for SLi.

[billofrights]

Bigger power supply is always better but none of the big OEMs let you pick your power supply. Arguing for SLI future-proofing is a pretty limited use scenario though. You will almost always be able to find a single-card solution that will perfom as well as 2 lesser specced. The one he's picked is pretty good and will get 2-3 years of solid use.

[bigbearbear]

Most computer games, even those deep in 3D graphics, are not CPU intensive. Anything beyond an Intel Core i5-3570 (as of this writing) is over kill and don't bring much to the table.

If I were you, I'll select something with less CPU power (don't select the i7 series, they're overkill for gaming) but with more RAM and SSD disk drives (or spinning disk drivers configured in RAID 0 array).

The GTX680 graphics card is also very high end, depending on the monitor and how many of them you're driving, you might want to also consider dialing it back to something more reasonable like the GTX670.

One thing I'll recommend spending a little more money on is the monitor. Most bundled monitors are TN types, upgrade to a better monitor based on IPS panel. The color of the game will look so different and vibrant that you'll think you're playing another game.

[gundad]

I got a really good deal on an out of date alienware from tigerdirect on closeout. I know alienware is frowned upon by hardcore gamers but for the price it was a steal. Basically it was about 3/4 year out of date. So maybe check them out if building is not your thing. I basically got the same thing you got there minus that nice graphics card for 999.99. The deal is long over but maybe they have something else going.