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  • 45DAVID1
    Banned
    • Oct 2007
    • 12145

    IP address questions

    How can I tell where an email is originating from based on IP address?

    I think my ex's mom is sending me emails from the ex's account. If there a way to trace the IP back to the originating address it was sent from?

    Thanks!
  • #2
    Dark Paladin
    學者, 羇客, 神戰士
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Sep 2008
    • 1531

    You will need to look at the SMTP headers in the email itself to determine point of origin, which SMTP servers it passed through, etc. Without the headers, there's not much you can do.

    Once you have determined the point of origin, whether by IP address or by FQDN, you can look it up online via ARIN to determine which network it belonged to. From there you could contact the network owner to determine which user the IP address was leased to at the time the email was sent. . . although they may require a court order / warrant to give you that information. . . . privacy laws and all that happy stuff.
    Last edited by Dark Paladin; 06-26-2012, 1:36 PM.

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    • #3
      odysseus
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Dec 2005
      • 10407

      What's the header info on the emails telling you? All internet email contains certain routing header information in it to assist you in tracing. Not all of it is perfect, but it is a start.
      "Just leave me alone, I know what to do." - Kimi Raikkonen

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      • #4
        45DAVID1
        Banned
        • Oct 2007
        • 12145

        I have the two different IP addresses from the headers but am just curious as what physical address they were both sent from.

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        • #5
          DoomeD
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2011
          • 61

          The email headers wont tell you what physical address they came from, it will tell you what servers it was sent from.

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          • #6
            45DAVID1
            Banned
            • Oct 2007
            • 12145

            Originally posted by DoomeD
            The email headers wont tell you what physical address they came from, it will tell you what servers it was sent from.
            is there a way to tell the area they were sent from?

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            • #7
              Dark Paladin
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              • Sep 2008
              • 1531

              Originally posted by tango78
              is there a way to tell the area they were sent from?
              Sort of. Like I said earlier, plug the IP address into ARIN.

              You can also try using this: http://geo-location.com/
              Last edited by Dark Paladin; 06-26-2012, 1:46 PM.

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              • #8
                odysseus
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2005
                • 10407

                Originally posted by DoomeD
                The email headers wont tell you what physical address they came from, it will tell you what servers it was sent from.
                Depends on the server and the client. Some append the client IP address to the header log.
                "Just leave me alone, I know what to do." - Kimi Raikkonen

                The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.' and that `Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty.'
                - John Adams

                http://www.usdebtclock.org/

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                • #9
                  45DAVID1
                  Banned
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 12145

                  what is ARIN? Im not so good with computers.

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                  • #10
                    Dark Paladin
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                    • Sep 2008
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                    Originally posted by tango78
                    what is ARIN? Im not so good with computers.
                    Try this instead: http://geo-location.com/

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                    • #11
                      dem0critus
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2012
                      • 619

                      depends heavily on what was used to send the email. If the subject in question was on gmail, then no you wont be able to pull an IP from the header. If they sent thru some different server using something like outlook, that's a different story. If they're sending you email from a cell phone or mobile device, the IP is going to do nothing for you.

                      Either way, what do you plan on doing with the IP address? You wont be able to get anything definitive without a court order.. Why not just block the damn emails?

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                      • #12
                        JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by 45DAVID1
                        How can I tell where an email is originating from based on IP address?

                        I think my ex's mom is sending me emails from the ex's account. If there a way to trace the IP back to the originating address it was sent from?

                        Thanks!
                        You can do a whois lookup on an IP but at most that will reveal what region it is registered in. You cannot get anymore information short of having the police get a warrant for the ISPs logs. Beware that most webmail services hide the originating IP and will give the mail server as the originating IP.

                        Originally posted by 45DAVID1
                        I have the two different IP addresses from the headers but am just curious as what physical address they were both sent from.
                        That is information you are not going to get.
                        Last edited by JDay; 06-26-2012, 6:09 PM.
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                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • #13
                          Hoop
                          Ready fo HILLARY!!
                          • Apr 2007
                          • 11539

                          Originally posted by 45DAVID1
                          is there a way to tell the area they were sent from?
                          If you have the IP addresses just Google them or download Whois and run them through that. Both should give you information on internet service provider and probably the region of the country they are coming from. It isn't perfect but if the Ex is in one state and Mom is in anoother it should be obvious.

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                          • #14
                            JDay
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19393

                            Originally posted by Hoop
                            If you have the IP addresses just Google them or download Whois and run them through that. Both should give you information on internet service provider and probably the region of the country they are coming from. It isn't perfect but if the Ex is in one state and Mom is in anoother it should be obvious.
                            I would take the geographic location associated with an IP block with a big grain of salt. I've had IP addresses that geo-locate back to NY.
                            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                            • #15
                              dem0critus
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2012
                              • 619

                              Originally posted by JDay
                              I would take the geographic location associated with an IP block with a big grain of salt. I've had IP addresses that geo-locate back to NY.
                              I've experienced the same exact thing. Bottom line is that you're not going to get anything important without going the legal route.

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