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  • #31
    Peter.Steele
    Calguns Addict
    • Oct 2010
    • 7351

    Originally posted by gorn5150
    I bought a couple of netgear power line adapters about 2 years ago. My house is 4 years old. They work great as long as they are on the same circuit, but don't work at all across the breakered circuits. Have they improved them to work over the entire house now?

    The product that I have is from Netgear, and it works just fine across different circuits. No problems at all. The speed is substantially slower, but there is no additional latency, and it's still 4-5 times faster than what my internet speed is, so I really don't care. It's a lot faster than wireless in the same location.



    Originally posted by socalblue
    You have to add a powerline bridge between the circuits at the main board. The bridge only passes the Ethernet signal (no power). I would suggest a electrician install at least the 1st one.

    For most homes a MOCA solution via coax is the best solution for extending throughout the house without mucking with things.

    Huh? Again, no problems here across different circuits in the house.
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    • #32
      cfm117
      Member
      • Nov 2008
      • 487

      Add a second router at powerline adapter

      I had the same problem you did. My ISP issued gateway was upstairs in the corner pretty much covering the upstairs. Downstairs had nothing, maybe one 1 bar. My WII, 2nd PS3 sucked, and of course I sometimes use ipad while eating, etc. Sooo, I put a powerline adapter at modem/gateway upstairs to start it, and put a wireline adapter downstairs in the kitchen area, with a Linksys WRT54G router I had laying around. Plug the ethernet cable into port 1-4,not internet port. It will tell router it is router behind router. I disabled DHCP in linksys so modem/gateway upstairs would still be DHCP server and everything can ping everything. I made my names different so i know which one is which. Wireless coverage solved. I also put a 3rd powerline adapter into master bedroom, and put a 4 port Gigabit switch to serve a desktop and network printer. Im not a network expert by any means but it worked for me. For ipads or mobile devices, it only takes a second to switch wireless networks since passwords are stored.


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      • #33
        SoCal Gunner
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 1632

        I have the Actiontec supplied by Verizon FiOS and bought a Verizon branded MoCA device off Amazon. Best $70 I spent. Funny part was the tech that came to swap my set-top box out had never seen or heardthe of one.
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        • #34
          JDay
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2008
          • 19393

          Originally posted by bigdawg86
          You can't use a wireless router as a wireless repeater. You would have to hardwire the second router with to the first, then use the same SSID on both. They have the standalone "repeaters" available, but don't work well. Although it's been a few years when I tried one.
          You are completely wrong here. With third party firmware such as DD-WRT, OpenWRT, and Tomato you can easily set up a wireless access point to be a repeater.

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          • #35
            JDay
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 19393

            Originally posted by andrewj
            Interesting. You use these?
            Powerline adapters have known issues.
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            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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            • #36
              andrewj
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2589

              Originally posted by JDay
              Powerline adapters have known issues.
              Go on...
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              • #37
                JDay
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 19393

                Originally posted by Peter.Steele
                I know how to wall fish.

                However, my wife has never seen this skill demonstrated, and unless she sees it demonstrated, she refuses to believe that it exists. I refuse to pay someone else to do something I can do just fine on my own. (Actually, this is what she said about surround sound speakers, but it can be extended to any sort of household wiring.)

                Therefore, powerline adapters. Cheap, quick, easy and oh so functional.
                Do it while she is gone then. And I would stay away from powerline adapters. You will have problems with them since the upstairs is more than likely on a different circuit.
                Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                • #38
                  JDay
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 19393

                  Originally posted by andrewj
                  Go on...
                  Google.
                  Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                  The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                  • #39
                    Jeepers
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3415

                    Originally posted by JDay
                    Powerline adapters have known issues.
                    so what are those issue when compared to WIFI ?

                    i would like to know what known issues there is with them as i have been Beta testing them for 3-4 years now ....
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                    • #40
                      andrewj
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2589

                      Originally posted by Jeepers
                      so what are those issue when compared to WIFI ?

                      i would like to know what known issues there is with them as i have been Beta testing them for 3-4 years now ....
                      How dare you ask him to elaborate, use google dammit!

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                      • #41
                        JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by slo5oh
                        Sounds like you need a better router. I too have my network come into a corner of my house and had trouble reaching across the house with everything from A,B to G, even MIMO, but my newest router is N and I have no problem anywhere in my house.
                        MIMO is an antenna implementation. The truth is that your new router is transmitting at a higher power output and/or has better antenna (higher gain) than your old one.
                        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • #42
                          JDay
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19393

                          Originally posted by Jeepers
                          so what are those issue when compared to WIFI ?

                          i would like to know what known issues there is with them as i have been Beta testing them for 3-4 years now ....
                          They're not very secure, you can hack the network by plugging into an outside power outlet. They're useless if the room you're trying to connect is not on the same circuit. Latency is high, speeds are not constant. Bad power will cause data loss due to noise.

                          EDIT: It also opens your computer up to another possible source of surge damage.
                          Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                          The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                          • #43
                            Jeepers
                            Veteran Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 3415

                            Originally posted by JDay
                            They're not very secure, you can hack the network by plugging into an outside power outlet. They're useless if the room you're trying to connect is not on the same circuit. Latency is high, speeds are not constant. Bad power will cause data loss due to noise.
                            i have never had issue with data loss or streaming useing 40+ year old wiring, there is security in them and if used the key will still need to be hacked..... so i dont call either one of these "issues"


                            edit to add after your edit ...lol

                            i ping 20-40 in a COD server in L.A. on my ole 6 Mbps dsl so latency is not a issue either for me

                            have any proof that a surge on the powewrlines damage any NIC card anywhere ?

                            i am calling b.s. to most of this


                            and on a side not Netgear is testing some new features for future homeplugs that are kinda cool

                            and on that note i am out .....
                            Last edited by Jeepers; 06-05-2012, 4:35 PM.
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                            • #44
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                              • #45
                                Jeepers
                                Veteran Member
                                • Sep 2009
                                • 3415

                                Originally posted by JDay
                                and to all the way at the end at 29 min 30 seconds ...
                                the actual only issues we have seen in the home plugs is the default keys used by vendors
                                again same issue that 99% of WIFI routers out there with default passwords ....

                                besides the point in a residential setting you might notice someone with a 50 foot extension cord running out your window to the van down the street ...

                                ETA one more fail on what you say wont work , you do not have to be on the same circuit . my main unit is on a separate circuit from where most of my connected equipment is and still works fine and no WIFI drop outs ...
                                Last edited by Jeepers; 06-05-2012, 5:47 PM.
                                Originally posted by Ronald Reagan
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