No one is forcing you to stay in a country you clearly hate, nose. Just because we aren't "at war" with Iran doesn't mean we need to let them start a war.
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Oh snap. The US was behind Stuxnet
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It's not the point, this is not the way our country is supposed to operate, whether you agree with it or not. This is why our country is in the ****ter, because people are okay with breaking the rules provided it benefits them or does something they personally agree with. but 50% break the rules to do **** you do like and 50% break the rules doing **** you dont like.
I'm sorry but the disconnect with reality is beyond my minds ability to comprehend.
It's a vicous evil world at times and sitting on the sidelines thinking it won't find it's way here is how we will end up with US cities clicking with radioactivity.
Iran is governed by a tyrannical vicious evil regime obsessed with obtaining nuclear weapons and run by Islamo-facists with bizarre and dangerous supernatural beliefs.
Iran's nuclear ability is a major and growing global concern for security, we can't just wish it away.
"Yeah, like... well, I just want to slap a hippie or two. Maybe even make them get jobs."

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Not to mention that Iran has been indirectly responsible for a lot of death and maiming of US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan, and fighting proxy wars with Israel. I'm perfectly OK with setting back their nuclear weapons ambitions - they are not our friends.Comment
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So am I, but I don't think it's wise admitting to sabataging a foreign country by using methods that the US Government considers to be akin to an Act of War.
True, a US v Iran conflict is going to happen.
We all know that the real reason the US needed to invade Iraq was to obtain a ground base to launch an invasion into Iran.
It was a covert operation that should have stayed covert, admitting to it just gives more fuel for Iran to use aganist the US, instead of Isreal (who everyone thought was solely, with a hint of US involvement, behind it).
And the timing of it being outed (election year/campaign time) leads me to believe the only reason why it was outed was for re-election politics purposes.sigpic
"If someone has a gun and is trying to kill you, it would be reasonable to shoot back with your own gun." - Dalai Lama (Seattle Times, 05-15-2001).Comment
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We are now. A cyber attack is an act of war and thanks to the big mouths within the Obama Administration we can't complain if Iranian hackers decide to shut down our power grid - we started the fight and have admitted it publicly. It's an act of betrayal by an administration desperate to hang onto power. The Obama Administration is betraying our allies and intelligence sources as fast as humanly possible while goading the Iranians to attack us.Last edited by sholling; 06-02-2012, 11:54 PM."Government is the great fiction, through which everybody endeavors to live at the expense of everybody else." --FREDERIC BASTIAT--
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Screw the cyber attacks. Let's just nuke all the countries building/having nukes.
If you love America, you'd be ok with it.
If you are not ok with it, leave this country!

"I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"- Patrick Henry.
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Crackin' up at all the flag waving...Comment
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Idealism can be noble, righteous, and romantic. It also can be childlike and naive, such as in this case. We operate in a world of grey ethics.
nothing surprises me anymore. not after
operation gladio
operation ajax
operation northwoods
operation paperclip
Tuskegee experiments
mkultra
its still horrifying, every time i read about a new one. but not surprising.
Why so many Americans think we are the good guys is beyond me."Just leave me alone, I know what to do." - Kimi Raikkonen
The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.' and that `Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty.'
- John Adams
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I guess Bush got tired of mommy and daddy (UN) not taking care of it and decided on a little insurance. Obama then stepped it up a notch.
Nom nom nom....who cares? Don't they have one of our super secret drones? (Trojan horse?)
Isn't Iran on the UN's council of women or human rights? Who's ally are they anyway?
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Stuxnet and other such things have been something I've been elbow deep in for some time now. Anybody worried about the future of being employed, take note: Start training in industrial computer security RIGHT NOW! All I can say with certainty is that this will become more prevalent, and if a specific house resolution currently being debated passes, ALL utility communications and computer functions will be under ther auspices of DHS, and they must be notified of all attempted intrusions in a specific format within specific timelines. Currently, it is not a requirement that these protocols be followed on a single intrusion attempt, but that will soon change. All US corporations that handle industrial contol systems and communications will be forced to have personnel on hand to both monitor and maintain the security equipment, servers, and software per the federal mandate. In another 5-7 years, there will be a trained, experienced workforce and the ratio of job seekers to available jobs will be less.
Due to what I do for a living, I have more than a passing interest in this, and advised my GF to begin this training in this industrial niche over 2 years ago. She is now well on her way to certifications and training. This is already being done on more than just this specific front. Stuxnet just made the news. Most don't.Peace, love, and heavy weapons. Sometimes you have to be insistent." - David Lee RothOriginally posted by KestryllDude went full CNN...Comment
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