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  • SactoDoug
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    • Oct 2013
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    Stay Away from Intel 13900K and 14900K CPUs

    There are a lot of reports of stability problems with these processors. I think Intel juiced the chips up too much in order to compete with AMD. Even their server version of these chips are unstable. If you must use an Intel CPU, then get their low or mid range CPUs. Their top tier ones are bad.

    There are many other videos and articles about it. This is just one.
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    Marauder2003
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    • Aug 2010
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    If you are gaming or running a gaming server. My 13900K using on chip graphics has been rock solid. Office, SQL, VS and various utilities.
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    • #3
      ibanezfoo
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      • Apr 2007
      • 11680

      It has to do with heat. We bought a whole bunch of machines with the 13th and 14th gen chips and you have to set the fans to max in the bios or they overheat and crash.
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      • #4
        gorn5150
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2007
        • 1453

        I'm running an asus with a Intel 13900K and 4080gpu. I do a lot of 4k+ video editing and haven't had any heat problems. Being it's an asus I'm sure it will have a premature death but no heat issue.

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        • #5
          ibanezfoo
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          • Apr 2007
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          Originally posted by gorn5150
          I'm running an asus with a Intel 13900K and 4080gpu. I do a lot of 4k+ video editing and haven't had any heat problems. Being it's an asus I'm sure it will have a premature death but no heat issue.
          What does your cooling system look like? Watch your performance metrics. See any thermal throttling?
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          • #6
            Cowboy T
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            • Mar 2010
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            I happen to run AMD Ryzens at present, but I've got nothing against Intel. Would water-cooling help with these higher-end CPU's?
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              Marauder2003
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              • Aug 2010
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              In my 13900K system I am running a NZXT 240 AIO. CPU is 33-37 C. Liquid is 31-34. Depends on room temp.
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              • #8
                arrix
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                • May 2012
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                Try underclocking it a little. Sounds like there was a bad batch of them.
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                • #9
                  ibanezfoo
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                  • Apr 2007
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                  Originally posted by Cowboy T
                  I happen to run AMD Ryzens at present, but I've got nothing against Intel. Would water-cooling help with these higher-end CPU's?
                  Nah. We use water coolers in the majority of our workstations. Its actually not as good as a good air cooler. Water is better for smoothing out the spikes, more consistency in cooling. Air is better for just outright max cooling. Hard to beat a giant copper heatsink and a big fan.

                  For our company we are opening up massive 3D construction models (cache size over 120gigs for a single model) and working on them so theres a lot of heat from the CPU and GPU.

                  But I will say even the 13th gen i5's have heat issues. I put out a batch of field controllers and had to crank up the fans to max on them too, but they were the tiny micro computers from Dell. Still, never had to do that with previous generations.
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                  • #10
                    high_revs
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                    • Feb 2006
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                    and here i thought intel would be better moving to 2nm chips from what i remember reading or listening too pre-pandemic even. and amd was behind and best they can get was 5nm processing? i stayed with a big air cooler also on my amd at the expense of it's a pita to get memory chips in so i ended up getting 2 more so i don't have to deal with it again. vs. my kid with an aio have tons of free space.

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                    • #11
                      gorn5150
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1453

                      Originally posted by ibanezfoo

                      What does your cooling system look like? Watch your performance metrics. See any thermal throttling?
                      I run it setting on a laptop cooling pad. I don't monitor the thermal unless it gets too hot which hasn't happened.

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                      • #12
                        nishanh
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                        • Mar 2009
                        • 297

                        Running a 14900KF here. I was having some crashing but an ASUS BIOS update meant to address the stability issue has straightened it out. I'm not overclocking and the system idles at around 38c. I was doing some video editing with DaVinci Resolve and it would spike to the mid-80s during render.

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                        • #13
                          tlwhite0311
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                          • Aug 2013
                          • 214

                          Been using a 13900K for over a year now. I have had no issues it's been a beast of a chip.
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                          • #14
                            SactoDoug
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                            • Oct 2013
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                            A more in depth video on it. It appears to affect all 13th and 14th gen Intel CPUs. The failure rate is between 10-25%. That means most of the chips are good but there are a lot of bad ones out there. Long term reliability might be questionable if there is a problem with the manufacturing process like some experts are thinking. So far the fixes have been to downgrade performance.

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                            • #15
                              SactoDoug
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                              • Oct 2013
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                              It is confirmed, oxidation issues with 13th & 14th gen CPUs in addition to the voltage issue.

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