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  • Big Chudungus
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2021
    • 2666

    how clone "ALL my stuff" from old Vista 7 to new Win 11 PC?

    Haven't bought new PC, but old Vista 7 is just too slow even for websurfing. All the Youtubes are over 15 minutes long. In this day and age, and with Bill Gates always wanting to collect new Microsoft Tax on everyone, can't I just connect Old PC to New PC with a cable, push a couple buttons, and in a few hours (due to old PC) come back its all (including passwords, etc) exactly like my old setup, except for new Windows password and of course diff looks in "settings" etc?

    I WANT to give Bill Gates money, but seems like he is making it tough.

    You guys telling me I've to manually Re-install all these programs on new PC, and what about all the various data linked to them?
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    Preston-CLB
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2018
    • 3640

    We cannot tell you exactly how to do this because we do not know what kind of gear you have. Once we know this, we may be able to give you a hand.

    Regardless, you have to have a plan in order to do this efficiently and accurately in order to avoid problems.

    You will need to reinstall your programs on the new machine. If you just attempt to move/copy them, they likely won't work. Be advised that some older programs may not be compatible with Win 11, so you'll need to check on that. In any event, be sure to install the newest available version of your programs for safety and better performance. You will also need to copy your documents, pictures and other user files to the appropriate folders on the new machine.

    it's a daunting task, one I have done several times, but if plan it out and take your time, you'll be fine.

    Good luck!
    -P
    ? "If you want nice fresh oats, you have to pay a fair price. If you are satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse, well, that comes a little cheaper."

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    • #3
      Big Chudungus
      Veteran Member
      • Jun 2021
      • 2666

      what about "cloning" like when a college or company sets up dozens of machines all the same. I guess that would be when they load up one machine, but the others are all exact same hardware so it just clones the HD? I've got old Vista PC, two hard drives, not sure what I'll get next, but I guess a desktop with one drive and use a 500gig chip reader for 2nd drive.

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      • #4
        Preston-CLB
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2018
        • 3640

        If you clone the old Vista PC to the new machine, you will overwrite the Win 11 OS and any other drivers or programs on the new machine! Don't do that!

        As I said above, you'll need to reinstall your programs and move/copy your data files to the new machine.

        The best way to copy your user files, once you get the new machine is to connect both machines to your network router and then use Windows to copy the files to the drive on the new machine.

        You mention you have 2 HD's on the old machine. One of them will have the OS, program files, and likely some user files. Is this correct? What types of files are located on the 2nd drive?
        -P
        ? "If you want nice fresh oats, you have to pay a fair price. If you are satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse, well, that comes a little cheaper."

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          Iknownot
          Senior Member
          • Jul 2007
          • 2174

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            Preston-CLB
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2018
            • 3640

            Good thoughts there, Iknownot! That would work nicely if the OP does not have a network.

            Another thought: The OP mentioned he has a second HD on the old machine. If his new machine has an open drive bay, he could put that drive in the bay and hook up the data and power cables. It would then be available as a secondary drive, and he wouldn't have to move files from it to the new machine's primary drive.
            -P
            ? "If you want nice fresh oats, you have to pay a fair price. If you are satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse, well, that comes a little cheaper."

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            • #7
              Iknownot
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2007
              • 2174

              Originally posted by Preston-CLB
              Good thoughts there, Iknownot! That would work nicely if the OP does not have a network.

              Another thought: The OP mentioned he has a second HD on the old machine. If his new machine has an open drive bay, he could put that drive in the bay and hook up the data and power cables. It would then be available as a secondary drive, and he wouldn't have to move files from it to the new machine's primary drive.
              -P

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              • #8
                Preston-CLB
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2018
                • 3640

                Originally posted by Iknownot
                Agreed.

                Just a quick note for you:

                Thers is a nice little program called Speccy from Piriform that will show drive attributes (SMART data) and drive health, among other hardware items on the machine. It's pretty cool. There is a free version.
                -P
                ? "If you want nice fresh oats, you have to pay a fair price. If you are satisfied with oats that have already been through the horse, well, that comes a little cheaper."

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                • #9
                  arrix
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 3698

                  Originally posted by Preston-CLB
                  Good thoughts there, Iknownot! That would work nicely if the OP does not have a network.

                  Another thought: The OP mentioned he has a second HD on the old machine. If his new machine has an open drive bay, he could put that drive in the bay and hook up the data and power cables. It would then be available as a secondary drive, and he wouldn't have to move files from it to the new machine's primary drive.
                  -P
                  This is the way, except put the old drive in an external enclosure and connect to it via USB. I've done this dozens of times over the years.
                  There is no week nor day nor hour, when tyranny may not enter upon this country, if the people lose their supreme confidence in themselves -- and lose their roughness and spirit of defiance -- Tyranny may always enter -- there is no charm, no bar against it -- the only bar against it is a large resolute breed of men.

                  -Walt Whitman

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                  • #10
                    MrRichards
                    Member
                    • May 2019
                    • 134

                    You could continue to run your Win7 environment as a virtual machine under W11 using VMWare Workstation. Moving your data to a separate drive is a wise choice.

                    VMware Workstation Pro lets you run multiple operating systems as virtual machines (including Windows VMs) on a single windows or Linux PC.
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                    • #11
                      high_revs
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 7535

                      for passwords and if OP is willing, you login to browser, set up sync and those should copy over to the new pc when you launch same browser. assuming again, you want the maker of the browser to get a hold of your passwords and what not. that would copy over your bookmarks and in some browsers, open tabs too. (i normally just copy the open tabs in a notepad text file.

                      usually i think since win7, most data is now in your profile's my documents/videos/music/etc. gone are the days certain things are in program files or program files (x86) like in the olden days though i think bookmarks files are still there. i use eversync to sync bookmarks across machines so never have to worry about exporting that out anymore when i have to move to new pc or refresh current one.

                      else all apps are re-install. creating account on browsers allow you have the new machine reinstall the extensions. else pretty much one can copy all under C:\Users\[windows profile name] ?

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                      • #12
                        Big Chudungus
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2021
                        • 2666

                        thx, everyone.

                        sounds like I'm more or less gonna need to start fresh, and keep the old unit or at least its hard drives around just in case. Nothing fantastically important on old unit that couldn't be recovered with a couple hours quality time "forgot your password" Land.

                        Seems like a real blunder that Mr Gates doesn't have a nifty way to Clone your old data and complete set up to a newer PC with latest Windows, just to sell more Windows. I'd bet if it could be done with a few clicks there would be all sorts of people buying a new PC and Windows every year.

                        Then again, a major reason I and many others don't buy new cars unless its literally a matter of life and death, is the horrible Sales Process. Go figure.

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