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  • Futurecollector
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Oct 2008
    • 11559

    Basic Linux question,

    Hey guys, I wanted to know if I can/ if its a good idea to boot my laptop via a USB Flash Drive. I know the Ubantu site says you can dual boot with a USb Drive, but what is preferred/ better? Is it not smart to dual boot? If I do dual boot I would have to partition my HDD right?

    I just want to try Linux and im not to concerned about it being hard or wtv else people may say because I will be doing this on my old Laptop after I get a new one, that way If I like it I can go from there but If I don't I won't have to worry about switching everything over wo Win7.

    Thanks in advance.
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  • #2
    rockdogz
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 447

    Have you already tried just booting from the Linux CD? A lot of distros including Ubuntu have Live CDs which will just let you get right into Linux without installing anything. The only drawback is that it's a little slower when you launch programs since it accesses the disc.

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    • #3
      Futurecollector
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Oct 2008
      • 11559

      Originally posted by rockdogz
      Have you already tried just booting from the Linux CD? A lot of distros including Ubuntu have Live CDs which will just let you get right into Linux without installing anything. The only drawback is that it's a little slower when you launch programs since it accesses the disc.
      I don't really want to go that route since I have read that it slows down, Im also just getting everything ready for when I get my new laptop in the mail, this way if I jack something up and do have to re install win I wont be with out a laptop for the 18 hours it would take lol
      None of my posts are serious or real, nothing I post is legal advice.

      Originally posted by SanDiego619
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      • #4
        r3dn3ck
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 1900

        +1. Boot the Ubuntu cd and enjoy. You'll have a full linux distro but won't be able to install any packages into it (well... not without a little work).

        Using a flash drive will land you with a system that lives a very short time. Flash drives progressively lose their fidelity. If you just want to try it, feel free but it will be about as fast as the cd but more flexible.

        Linux is NOT hard. Just forget everything about windows and solve your linux problems in Linux the Linux way. Welcome to the future.

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        • #5
          zfields
          CGN Contributor
          • Aug 2010
          • 13658

          I use a linux live OS on a USB stick for doing file recovery and some repair stuff. Its a great way to do it, and helpful since it is writeable media if you need to modify it/save stuff to it.

          As for a semi permanant dual boot......id pass. To easy to partition and set it up the right way.
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          • #6
            bigmike82
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            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2008
            • 3876

            "Welcome to the future."
            Not until the gaming problem is completely solved.

            The LiveCD will give you a good idea of what the system feels like. Another option, if you want to actually be able to use the system as if it was installed on your HD, is to download VMWare Player and run Linux inside with a prebuilt appliance.

            Check here for more details:



            The biggest limitation of doing that is that you don't get some of the eye candy as VMWare can't accelerate the graphics, but otherwise it works the same.
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            • #7
              gugoo
              Member
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2011
              • 454

              The real answer is not to dual boot but boot GNU/Linux only and have Windows as a virtual guest
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              • #8
                nick
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                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2008
                • 19144

                You can run Linux in a VM, that way you don't have to dual-boot, and you can have both Windows and Linux at the same time. I do that with multiple OSs on my laptop. Just make sure to have enough RAM, if you run a lot of VMs.
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                • #9
                  stix213
                  AKA: Joe Censored
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 18998

                  Safest way as far as the data on your current HDD is concerned is to just get a 2nd HDD, and replace the HDD in your laptop with the new one. Install Linux on that.

                  Running Linux off of a CD sucks because CD's have slow access, and you won't be writing to the CD so is of limited usefulness (I usually use them as either diagnostic disks or to install Linux on the hard drive). Installing Linux on a USB flash sucks because of slow USB flash performance, so will give you a bad impression.

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                  • #10
                    pbsmind
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2011
                    • 527

                    Options:

                    1. Boot from USB Stick like you said, checkout unetbootin, you can put any live CD on a thumbdrive that way.

                    2. Burn a live CD

                    3. Download Virtualbox and put linux in the VM

                    All of these are going to be slower then running it from your hard drive but you'll be able to get a good feel for the system.

                    Best Option and how I have my work machine:
                    Originally posted by gugoo
                    The real answer is not to dual boot but boot GNU/Linux only and have Windows as a virtual guest
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                    • #11
                      xrMike
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Feb 2006
                      • 7841

                      Originally posted by r3dn3ck
                      Flash drives progressively lose their fidelity.
                      Not to thread-jack, but really? Roughly how long can you count on a USB stick before it may start degrading? Is this longer or shorter than a CD/DVD?

                      Just wondering what is better media for storing important files on, long-term.

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                      • #12
                        ibanezfoo
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 11634

                        Originally posted by xrMike
                        Not to thread-jack, but really? Roughly how long can you count on a USB stick before it may start degrading? Is this longer or shorter than a CD/DVD?

                        Just wondering what is better media for storing important files on, long-term.
                        Depends on the manufacturer but he is right. USB flash drives (all flash, technically) have a limited amount of writes. I don't know that I would trust them for any long term storage, but then it depends how long. CD/DVD only lasts what, 5 years, with the dyes they use nowdays? Old school tapes last quite awhile. Otherwise you can copy to a couple HD's and stick them on a shelf.
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                        • #13
                          yellowsulphur
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 1627

                          Originally posted by Futurecollector
                          Hey guys, I wanted to know if I can/ if its a good idea to boot my laptop via a USB Flash Drive. I know the Ubantu site says you can dual boot with a USb Drive, but what is preferred/ better? Is it not smart to dual boot? If I do dual boot I would have to partition my HDD right?

                          I just want to try Linux and im not to concerned about it being hard or wtv else people may say because I will be doing this on my old Laptop after I get a new one, that way If I like it I can go from there but If I don't I won't have to worry about switching everything over wo Win7.

                          Thanks in advance.
                          What did you end up doing?

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                          • #14
                            rexblaine
                            Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 300

                            If you have enough RAM just initrd from your USB into a ramdrive, you only need the USB at boot time and then you never access it - read it won't wear out. You could leave windoze bootable from your HDD and use a partition on that for /opt, /export, or whatever you need permastored.

                            Google initrd ramdrive diskless Linux

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