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  • JDay
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2008
    • 19393

    Who thinks Macs are secure?

    The malware explosion has begun!

    A couple weeks ago, the proprietor of the world’s number-one Mac site accused me of crying wolf over predictions that Mac malware was around the corner. More than 200 visitors to Apple's support forums would disagree with him. Read the details.


    Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

    The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)
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    Nose Nuggets
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2008
    • 6801

    muahahahaha! looks like my check cleared with anon.


    "It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." -Thomas Jefferson

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    • #3
      ElvenSoul
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Apr 2008
      • 17431

      Mac's are more exposed than PC's due to lack of variety of software, security programs, and experience at being targeted.
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      • #4
        NSR500
        Banned
        • Aug 2006
        • 19530

        PWND!

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        • #5
          DaveInOroValley
          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2010
          • 8967

          Ok so lets add up how many malware/viruses/bs addware and other system choking files affect the WIN OS vs the UNIX family of MacOS...?

          BIG FAIL ON WINDOZE sorry.
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          Vet since 1978

          "Don't bother me with facts, Son. I've already made up my mind." -Foghorn Leghorn

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          • #6
            safewaysecurity
            Calguns Addict
            • Jun 2010
            • 6166

            Macs are for retards.
            Originally posted by cudakidd
            I want Blood for Oil. Heck I want Blood for Oil over hand wringing sentiment!
            ^

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            • #7
              Rivers
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2007
              • 1630

              That "retard" comment says more about the poster than anything I might offer.

              So, moving on to more constructive content, ALL computers need some sort of decent security. ESET, VirusBarrier and even Norton (which hopefully is not a repeat of its first OS X software failures) and more. There are even free versions of most. Whatever you use, do NOT believe that software alone will protect you from your own boneheaded surfing behavior. If you disregard all of the warnings that Apple has built into its own security, you can expect problems to happen. Beware of websites for children's games and porn for malware.

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              • #8
                Nose Nuggets
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2008
                • 6801

                Originally posted by daveinwoodland
                Ok so lets add up how many malware/viruses/bs addware and other system choking files affect the WIN OS vs the UNIX family of MacOS...?

                BIG FAIL ON WINDOZE sorry.
                when the apple OS has a market share even in the same ballpark as Windows, then you can start chuckling. till then, wallow in the fact that apples prosperity comes from mobile devices, not workstations.

                Originally posted by safewaysecurity
                Macs are for retards.
                dude the mac hardware is tits. the macbook pro is one of the fastest windows laptops on the market.


                "It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." -Thomas Jefferson

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                • #9
                  ElvenSoul
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 17431

                  Yes Windoze Fails but so does Mac for being so happy and careless...no one will write a virus targetting us. Almost as bad as all ignorance of Sun Java Developers.
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                  • #10
                    Nose Nuggets
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 6801

                    Originally posted by Rivers
                    That "retard" comment says more about the poster than anything I might offer.

                    So, moving on to more constructive content, ALL computers need some sort of decent security. ESET, VirusBarrier and even Norton (which hopefully is not a repeat of its first OS X software failures) and more. There are even free versions of most. Whatever you use, do NOT believe that software alone will protect you from your own boneheaded surfing behavior. If you disregard all of the warnings that Apple has built into its own security, you can expect problems to happen. Beware of websites for children's games and porn for malware.

                    http://antivirus.about.com/od/macant...re_Reviews.htm
                    before MSE, i didnt run any AV at all because the benefits never outweighed the costs (performance). if you are a smart user, you dont need AV.


                    "It is to secure our rights that we resort to government at all." -Thomas Jefferson

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                    • #11
                      JDay
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 19393

                      Originally posted by ElvenSoul
                      Mac's are more exposed than PC's due to lack of variety of software, security programs, and experience at being targeted.
                      They're less secure because the security model on them is junk, their ALSR model is a joke. The entire Mac security model relies on security through obscurity, figuring that since they have such a small market share nobody will bother with them. This is the reason why they're always the first to get hacked at competitions such as Pwn2Own. Just look at this years results.

                      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                      • #12
                        JDay
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 19393

                        Originally posted by daveinwoodland
                        Ok so lets add up how many malware/viruses/bs addware and other system choking files affect the WIN OS vs the UNIX family of MacOS...?

                        BIG FAIL ON WINDOZE sorry.
                        Can you back this up with any fact? The fact is that current versions of Windows are far more secure, especially the 64-bit versions. This is backed up by many of the top security researchers in the field.
                        Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                        The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                        • #13
                          imtheomegaman
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1354

                          Mac vs PC is soooooooo 1980's....nothing to see here move along

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                          • #14
                            JDay
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19393

                            Originally posted by Rivers
                            That "retard" comment says more about the poster than anything I might offer.

                            So, moving on to more constructive content, ALL computers need some sort of decent security. ESET, VirusBarrier and even Norton (which hopefully is not a repeat of its first OS X software failures) and more.
                            If the OS has a decent security model (which OS X is lacking), these tools become much less important. Windows Vista/7 64-bit have a very good security model, which is why you'll rarely find one of those systems infected. This is also the reason that I recommend that people install the 64-bit version (32-bit software runs just fine), since the 32-bit versions can not take advantage of all the security features in 64-bit processors.
                            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                            • #15
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              Originally posted by Nose Nuggets
                              dude the mac hardware is tits. the macbook pro is one of the fastest windows laptops on the market.
                              Sure, if you do not mind not being able to replace your battery. Not to mention the insane price markup on their laptops. Lets also not forget that unless you buy one right when they refresh the line you'll likely be getting outdated hardware (they were still selling Core 2 Duo based MacBooks until the new ones came out).
                              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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