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  • #16
    norcal77
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    • Feb 2009
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    Originally posted by JDay
    You should never defrag a SSD, for one thing it is not needed and for another it will decrease the drives life.
    Thanks for the tip, my Norton Security suite has Disk optimization set to run all time, I'll be sure to turn that off.
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    • #17
      JDay
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      • Nov 2008
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      Originally posted by norcal77
      I read the same thing also but instead of relying on tests I decided to try it myself, I honestly don't notice any kind of limitations...
      The eeprom that is written to will wear out after so many write cycles. This is a known fact with SSDs and the reason why they ship with extra sectors on them (sectors that are going bad get copied to one of the extras then marked bad). I would highly recommend placing the swap file on a platter based drive, or disabling it all together if you have enough ram.
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      • #18
        norcal77
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        Originally posted by JDay
        The eeprom that is written to will wear out after so many write cycles. This is a known fact with SSDs and the reason why they ship with extra sectors on them (sectors that are going bad get copied to one of the extras then marked bad). I would highly recommend placing the swap file on a platter based drive, or disabling it all together if you have enough ram.
        Should 3GB of physical RAM be enough to disable the pagefile?
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        • #19
          Mute
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          Originally posted by norcal77
          Should 3GB of physical RAM be enough to disable the pagefile?
          I wouldn't turn it off with less than 8GB, but that's just me. If you have a platter drive for storage, use it for your pagefile. That's what I've done with my system and it works just fine.
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          • #20
            JDay
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            • Nov 2008
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            Originally posted by Mute
            I wouldn't turn it off with less than 8GB, but that's just me. If you have a platter drive for storage, use it for your pagefile. That's what I've done with my system and it works just fine.
            It shouldn't be a problem with 4GB.
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            • #21
              Gundam
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              • Mar 2004
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              Originally posted by JDay
              An i3 isn't exactly a fast CPU, in fact it is a low end CPU.
              For booting up windows, there will be little difference between an I3 and an I7. Don't let the dirt cheap price fool you. It's a very cable cpu. But compared to a celeron equipped netbook, that's a different story. There IS a noticeable difference between the two for booting windows and opening programs. With an SSD the celeron absolutely smokes the I3.

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              • #22
                nick
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                • Aug 2008
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                I've wanted to go SSD for a while now, but three things still prevent me from doing so:

                1. Lack of drives with FDE.
                2. Uncertainty about the max number of write cycles (time will tell that one).
                3. Price (although that one may become a non-issue if the other two are dealt with).

                The older laptops at work that we put SSD drives in now run as fast, or often faster than their newer counterparts with conventional platter drives.
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                • #23
                  Falstaff
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                  • Mar 2010
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                  Still not as fast as my WD Raptors in RAID 0...

                  My partner's an Electrical Engineer, he says flash memory has a life span of 1,000 reads/writes per bit and then they start "wearing out" are SSD's flash based?

                  Dunno' if that's still true.

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                  • #24
                    TonyM
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                    • Oct 2005
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                    Originally posted by Falstaff
                    Still not as fast as my WD Raptors in RAID 0...

                    My partner's an Electrical Engineer, he says flash memory has a life span of 1,000 reads/writes per bit and then they start "wearing out" are SSD's flash based?

                    Dunno' if that's still true.
                    They are generally guaranteed for a minimum of 100,000 writes per page or block, but wear leveling algorithms in the controllers make sure that you're never pounding the same pages/blocks all the time. This increases the lifespan significantly.

                    It's really not an issue.

                    My Raptors sit in my drawer, I do not miss the sound of them spinning or accessing.
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                    • #25
                      TonyM
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                      Originally posted by JDay
                      The eeprom that is written to will wear out after so many write cycles. This is a known fact with SSDs and the reason why they ship with extra sectors on them (sectors that are going bad get copied to one of the extras then marked bad). I would highly recommend placing the swap file on a platter based drive, or disabling it all together if you have enough ram.
                      The concept you are referring to came from Hard drives first, it's not just on NAND Flash. This is done so that IF a block (minimum size that can be marked bad) is determined to have failed a spare can be swapped in and the volume size will not change. It applies to hard drives as well, but on the sector level with hard drives.

                      I agree about the pagefile/swapfile. Disable it if you have the memory in Windows, or put it on a real HDD if you must, just because.
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                      Originally posted by NorCalK9.com
                      Also dont worry if u have never built one once you go to a build party you will know everything and have a perfect functioning rifle.

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