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  • HotRails
    Senior Member
    • May 2008
    • 1491

    access to shared wireless

    I share a wireless network with several roommates. It's password protected but I was concerned about whether one of them could see what websites I'm viewing, passwords to email/ bank accounts and so on. One of the roommates seems computer savvy and has the potential for malevolent behavior. Thanks, computer technology is not my strong point!
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    fdbizzle
    Junior Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 53

    pretty unlikely unless they install something

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    • #3
      djbooya
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 816

      Originally posted by HotRails
      I share a wireless network with several roommates. It's password protected but I was concerned about whether one of them could see what websites I'm viewing, passwords to email/ bank accounts and so on. One of the roommates seems computer savvy and has the potential for malevolent behavior. Thanks, computer technology is not my strong point!
      If you are concerned make sure you use encryption to any sites you visit.

      For example, for website make sure it says "https://...." for your email, make sure you're using POP w/encryption or IMAP w/encryption, or if using webmail, make sure you choose the websites HTTPS option which is not the default.

      If you're in a shared setting and not doing this the computer savvy dude can see your traffic if he tries. However, you make it much harder (not impossible) for him to see anything when using encryption end to end.

      Make sure you do not accept any "warnings" from your web browser that says a certificate is invalid because that could be the roommate trying to hi-jack your traffic.
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      • #4
        djbooya
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2008
        • 816

        Originally posted by fdbizzle
        pretty unlikely unless they install something
        btw: since they are in the same physical area nothing needs to be installed. depending on the access the roommate has he can easily hi-jack the traffic if it isn't encrypted.
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        • #5
          bigmike82
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          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2008
          • 3876

          Even if it is encrypted, if they've got the password it might as well not be.
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          • #6
            djbooya
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2008
            • 816

            Originally posted by bigmike82
            Even if it is encrypted, if they've got the password it might as well not be.
            Oh, I was referring to the OP using encryption at the app layer. I agree that any encryption at the network layer is moot since the roommate is on the same network. Even outside of that, they can just install a hub on the front end of the wireless router/access point and at that point unless application layer encryption is used they can see everything.... even if application layer encryption is used with a little more work they can still see everything.
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            • #7
              Turbinator
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              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 11933

              Are your roomates that untrustworthy, or are you just afraid they'll catch you looking at.... nevermind..

              Turby

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              • #8
                JDay
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Nov 2008
                • 19393

                Use the https (SSL) gateway for your webmail, make sure your email client is set to use TLS or SSL if you use a client. Your bank already forces use of SSL so you don't have to worry about that.
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                • #9
                  HotRails
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 1491

                  Originally posted by Turbinator
                  Are your roomates that untrustworthy, or are you just afraid they'll catch you looking at.... nevermind..

                  Turby
                  Yeah, thats what I've thought, none of them know I have guns.. oh wait.. you meant.. well I was just concerned they might find out something they didn't know already.. alll-riggght

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                  • #10
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                    • Dec 2006
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                    Originally posted by HotRails
                    Yeah, thats what I've thought, none of them know I have guns.. oh wait.. you meant.. well I was just concerned they might find out something they didn't know already.. alll-riggght
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                    • #11
                      D_fens
                      Junior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 97

                      A few things:
                      1.) Everyone does it. (Ok, not eeeeeveryone)
                      2.) Try logging into your router and seeing if it has a log if you're worried about people looking at your history.
                      3.) Emails and Bank Accounts usually use an encrypted website. At least the websites of the ones I use do. Look for the "https"
                      4.) Get leverage against him

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                      • #12
                        HotRails
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2008
                        • 1491

                        Originally posted by D_fens
                        A few things:
                        1.) Everyone does it. (Ok, not eeeeeveryone)
                        2.) Try logging into your router and seeing if it has a log if you're worried about people looking at your history.3.) Emails and Bank Accounts usually use an encrypted website. At least the websites of the ones I use do. Look for the "https"
                        4.) Get leverage against him
                        how would i do this?

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                        • #13
                          badandy
                          Member
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 152

                          Originally posted by HotRails
                          how would i do this?
                          try to see what they're doing.... will give you a good idea of how tough/easy it may be. and then hold them responsible for they're sleazy surfing...

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                          • #14
                            Pyrodyne
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                            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 264

                            With this much trust out the window, why go to all the bother and waste all that time? Sure you can go spy on his activity or try to weasel around him spying on you but at that point is it really worth it to have a roommate around that you can't trust?

                            If it's more a question of potentials, and you are the one paying for the internet bill, and you are really stressing about it, use a separate router for them and create two networks, yours and theirs, and stop using wireless. Spying on your roommates might fall into wiretapping territory. Don't do it.
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                            • #15
                              Anthony
                              Member
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 198

                              Like what others have said, make sure your session is encrypted when visiting your bank and the like.

                              You also need to verify that they cannot get into your computer since you and them are technically on the same network. Having some sort of firewall in your computer that blocks any incoming traffic that you have not allowed should also be one of your priorities.

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