wiring a new wired network in a home

[Darklyte27]

anyone have this kind of experience?
any suggestions? Cat 6 etc?

[Rob454]

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[GunNutz]

Are you looking for the wiring to be installed, or advice on setting up the network itself?

[thedonger]

I would suggest you go with cat 6. You also might want to pull extra string or other wires while your at it for future tech.

[thedonger]

Oh and if you find someone who will pull the wire for your cheep let me know...

[Darklyte27]

its for a new house! i bought a house and its in the final stages
I will talk to the builder thursday and see what they or I can do.
if I can do it myself then gerat, if not then i guess i gota pay them.

I do have cat 6 cable i bought for 87$ for 1k ft from monoprice.com

[mark2203]

The cable is cheap. CAT5e, CAT6. Doesn't really matter. It's the labor that will cost you. But if you're in construction and the sheetrock is off, it should be easy and absorbed pretty transparently into the cost of the overall build. Usually around $100-$200 per drop even with the sheetrock on assuming they can fish a wire through the wall.

The cost of pulling 1 or multiple lines per drop should be pretty close. Pull everything back and terminate it all in a central wiring closet, which should also be your main point of entry for service. Think of it like a hub and spoke. This will give you the ability to light-up every port in the house easily from one central location. At the same time, I would also recommend pulling your voice and coax lines back to that same closet so all your service comes in and can be managed through the house from one area.

Make sure your contractor finds someone who understands this type of work. Nothing's worse than trying to deal with an improperly wired house after the fact, like my house for example.

Oh..and if your a dork like me, put a drop in everywhere. Your bathrooms, kitchen, garage, patio, porch, every corner of the outside of your house. Voice, data, video, survellience, etc.

[F-2_Challenger]

I would recommend cat 5e as there is no real advantage to cat 6. I think it will just be passed over like laser disks. While he is doing the Cat 5e( 2 strands) have him drop 2 fibers at the same time. Leave them behind the jack. Not worth paying for it now, but in the future

Have him run to a central location (POP) where you phone line comes in along w/ coax. Neat stuff can be done. CCTV

Talk about a sweet security system, depending on camera selection, could also be run off of cat 5e.

Depending on house one with crawl space I found is easier than with an attic. (FAT ARSE) I helped with a friends house and it rocks. Did it for around a 1000 bucks. And that included buying the tools and switch, router, and UPS.


Also consider 2 coax at the same time behind one for TV and one for CCTV.

[Rob454]

I do data work at work and I also do it sometimes for a buddy or a friend of a buddy. When i run my lines I usually do a two cat 5 and two RG6 to every location that I want something at. At that point you have pretty much unlimited options. i install 4 port plates
Darklyte you have the best of both worlds that you can do your wiring before the sheetrock goes up. IF you can i would do at least a cat 5 and a coax at every location. If you have spare wires I would also look into doing cameras at at least the front entry and the back of the house maybe one in the garage and maybe perimeter.
I woudl run a cat 5 and a coax RG59 to those locations. If you dont use it ok no big deal but if you ever decide to get a CCTV system you already are wired up for it

PM me and Il get you some of the stuff you need. I cant get a ton of it but I can get you some to get you started if its a reasonable amount no problem.

[nick]

Check the fire codes where you live. Depending on how you run it, you might have to use plenum grade cable. Also, check for potential sources of EMI, and try to run the cables away from them. And go with CAT6.

To the guy who said that there's no advantage to CAT6, I don't suppose you've dealt with much EMI on your cable runs? Running a 5ft cable from the home router to the computer and getting the 1Gbps link balloon on Windows doesn't count

[Rekrab]

I can't think of a single good reason not to use Cat6 o.O

[MFortie]

Umm, you guys ever heard of wireless?

Seriously, I design structured cabling installations for a living and probably wouldn't bother with copper anywhere in a house (for data). Except maybe for IP cameras and the WAPs.

And while the suggestion for running fiber is great in a business environment, I don't see any need for it in the home. Just more expense for patch panels, jacks, switches, terminations, yadda, yadda, yadda...

To the OP -- run CAT6 cable if you want some hard-wired data circuits in your house. Pick a fairly central location, put in a small wall mounted patch panel frame and call it good.

Of course if you're running OpteMAN into your house, you may want to rethink what I just said... Then again if you were, you wouldn't be posting the question on a gun forum...

Regards,

Mark

[Darklyte27]

So I have Cat6 on the way, if I was to install it myself, how do I do it?
When I worked for the County, we installed wires in the ceiling, cable trays, D rings, and dropped down walls which usually had fiber glass or some other insulation in them.

If I get the chance to install myself how do I do it?, the walls are still looking like this picture. Zip tie to wood? run along the walls? Drill holes and drop down to where the jack will be?

[G17GUY]

I was going to recommend some caddy hangers (http://www.erico.com/products/CADDY_CAT_LINKS.asp) but you’re only going to have a few cables thus being a house. I would get some zip ties that have the screw rings on them and create a nice path in the attic to your switch cabinet. Create like 1” rings with the zip ties and drape your cable through them. Leave them loose.
(http://www.tnb.com/contractor/docs/catamount.pdf zip ties called mounting head ties on page 2)

Drops-I would drill the top plate and just do drops down the wall. It’s easy to work with later when you want to add something. And, if you run horizontal in the wall and for some reason a drywall screw gets one of them it , your chances of having to abandon the wire and drill the top plate to drop a wire to that location are good anyway.

Probably overkill – however, you need to think about putting boxes in. You can leave the wire in the wall and come back and cut in com rings but since you have the chance you might as well put boxes on the studs (more support) since com rings are kind of cheesy. If you use boxes you will likely want to use smerf tube up the wall to the attic.

Just remember, the cable needs to be secured to the center of the stud on the drop to keep it from getting pinched between the drywall and the stud. Also you might think of pulling phone to each location also, you can use cat cable for this if you want, better in the long run.

[G17GUY]

Check the fire codes where you live. Depending on how you run it, you might have to use plenum grade cable. Also, check for potential sources of EMI, and try to run the cables away from them. And go with CAT6.

To the guy who said that there's no advantage to CAT6, I don't suppose you've dealt with much EMI on your cable runs? Running a 5ft cable from the home router to the computer and getting the 1Gbps link balloon on Windows doesn't count

Cat7 is for high impedance locations, thats why it is sheilded. One plant I work in make us use it even though it is ran in ARC. lol