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  • #46
    badfish71
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2008
    • 958

    wow so many haters. i think its a cool idea, i just think back a few years when the first ipod was just amazing. then the ipod touch, iphone etc. i'm glad the technology is reaching us instead of just being available to the government. but they thats Just IMHO...

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    • #47
      JDay
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Nov 2008
      • 19393

      Originally posted by badfish71
      wow so many haters. i think its a cool idea, i just think back a few years when the first ipod was just amazing. then the ipod touch, iphone etc. i'm glad the technology is reaching us instead of just being available to the government. but they thats Just IMHO...
      All they did was add a larger screen to the ipod touch and added an option for 3G, how is that a cool idea? If I need something that size I'll get a netbook for much less and not be stuck using the apple approved apps from the app store.
      Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

      The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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      • #48
        gunn
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 1536

        Originally posted by glock_this

        And please.. it is way more than a huge iPod Touch - so much so, if I have to explain why - you wouldn't get it anyway
        A truly good product should explain itself. Trying to take the elitist path and say that only people within my clique will really get it is the same tactic that all the clowns who mindlessly back their crappy "quirky" car brands or niche market sports (speed stacking, anyone?) use.

        For the record, I HATE apple and steve job's products. I sincerely object to how their products are designed to be disposable vs repairable and how the UI tries to hide features in an effort to make the 20% of features that 80% of the users use slightly easier to use. Both of these philosophies piss me off.

        That being said, I really did like the IPOD and the iphone. Much as though I dislike Apple, these two products are quite good AND EXPLAIN THEMSELVES despite the shortcomings of a non-easily removable battery. IMO, the IPAD falls quite short.

        I don't feel the ipad has the same kind of appeal for the similar reasons outlined:
        - as an ebook killer: great, you want to kill an already niche market product. IMO, ebooks would be great for HS/college textbooks but the device itself should be <$100.
        - as a web browsing tablet: Netbooks are cheaper.
        - Will this POS require prying some glued plastic edge to replace the battery? I don't know for sure but i'm guessing the answer is yes.
        Play it Forward Thread: Share with your Fellow Calgunners by Giving Something for FREE and Take Something you Need for FREE!

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        • #49
          Loner
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2006
          • 682

          glock_this - adroid os 2.1 on the nexus one already has flash support.

          So iphone os=fail

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          • #50
            Vin496
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2008
            • 8804

            Originally posted by JDay
            All they did was add a larger screen to the ipod touch and added an option for 3G, how is that a cool idea? If I need something that size I'll get a netbook for much less and not be stuck using the apple approved apps from the app store.
            The basic facts is people like different things. I have never seen the appeal of a netbook, some friends and relatives have them and all they are(to me) are little crappy laptops. They all bought them because they were cheap and small, and now almost all of them sit unused in some drawer, because they did nothing well.

            From your post I can see that you have a problem with Apple's policies w/ the App store, but to 98%+ of other people that isn't an issue.

            You also have to factor in the the ease of use in this thing, tens of millions of people are familiar with it's operation and are setup to run it already, that is the biggest difference and what gives it the edge to succeed over over tablet/book readers.
            I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

            and

            If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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            • #51
              glock_this
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2005
              • 8225

              For the haters...

              It is just a theme for some to hate on anything Apple does, and they make it clear in their posts. Alway trying to diminish or marginalize their products, always finding fault and quick to dismiss, despite the fact the rest of the population can clearly see it for what it is and the competitors are scrambling to keep up.

              If you think this is hardly better than any current eBook - again, it is laughable and not sure how you do not see it. On just that 1 front, the iPad has an OS.. the current eBooks are flat, 1D, static, boring displays. Nothing like an OS. That alone makes the current eBooks laughable. Holding a Kindle, compared to this, really will be like hold a newspaper - just as flat and unemotional. Apple just made existing eBooks look as dated as cell phones were years ago when they came out with the iPhone.

              Besides the eBook ability.. photos, the interactive multi-touch, music, all the apps you can download, you then kick the eBook up to a whole new level. So to say "all they did was...." - ha ha ha ha ... yeah, all they did was make something no one else has. And give it abilities to dual run apps and iPhone apps, and make book reading - like page turn - more true to real book reading.

              So look, you can hate on it all you want and hate on Apple, and it will be futile for anyone to try to convince you otherwise - but the public will show you that it is a popular piece and not a "fail" bw ha ha ha, yeah, a "fail". And, be best assured the competition, like with the iPhone, is all ears right now.



              resistance is futile, just give in and accept it..
              Last edited by glock_this; 01-28-2010, 8:22 AM.
              10 +1 in the chamber

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              • #52
                Starscream
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 294

                I would rather read with e ink.
                I will rule the universe, even if I am the only one left in the universe.

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                • #53
                  Vin496
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 8804

                  Originally posted by Starscream
                  I would rather read with e ink.
                  I am curious how the iPad display will hold up for heavy duty book readers over the eink of the Kindle or Barnes n Nobles device.
                  I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

                  and

                  If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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                  • #54
                    Loner
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 682

                    It'll be as successful as the Newton, pippin, and powercd.

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                    • #55
                      Vin496
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 8804

                      Originally posted by Loner
                      It'll be as successful as the Newton, pippin, and powercd.
                      Your using products from 15-20 years, Apple is in a very different place in the market than it was back then.

                      Do all Apple products hit it big, of course not, current examples would be the Apple TV and probably the mac mini to an extent. I'm sure neither has lived up to expectations, but the whole iphone/ipod and now ipad are on a whole different level.

                      If you watched the announcement, he mentions something that kind of shocked me, that Apple is the largest mobile device company in the world now, bigger than Samsung,Sony and Nokia in terms of revenue.
                      I think it can be confirmed that an alien xenomorph is absolutely no match for good ole' Alabama black snake!

                      and

                      If you're in a survival movie and the hot blond twists her ankle and can't walk, you damn well figure a way to carry her. If it's a dude, you shake his hand and say "best of luck".

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                      • #56
                        Dekker
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 1866

                        iWillWait. If their past business means anything, I'll wait awhile before even considering it. My speakerless touch is proof of that as is the newer iPhone. There will be upgrades and advances, buying the first gen of anything Apple is pointless. Save your dinero, wait till the smaller version comes out with more gizmos.( knowing Apple, in like 5 months)

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                        • #57
                          glock_this
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 8225

                          not sure a smaller version of this will arrive as they are pretty clear that that size makes all of the things it can do: email, read, games, video, pictures the "best" viewing possible.

                          BUT, I would agree there will be next iterations and I suspect that will mean a camera. A camera facing you so you can then use iChat. And on that note, there are some rumors that the "final" working version of this is not yet complete and so a "camera" could still be in the works, but not ready for prime time. I doubt that, so I suspect a built in cam would be the next iteration.

                          but hey, even if you are an early adaptor, you can sell it to get the next V2 as someone will buy it
                          10 +1 in the chamber

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                          • #58
                            Loner
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 682

                            Nokia just announced 16.8 billion in sales for Q4. Steve was blowing smoke yesterday.
                            Last edited by Loner; 01-28-2010, 9:45 AM.

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                            • #59
                              Barbarossa
                              Veteran Member
                              • Aug 2008
                              • 4436

                              I went out and bought an ASUS Eee PC Netbook last night. $279.

                              Win.
                              Looking for a 3" Magnum 870 $200-$250ish

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                              • #60
                                ac427cpe
                                Member
                                • Apr 2009
                                • 300

                                till the ipad can:

                                run flash in safari
                                run more than one app at a time
                                utilize a usb port
                                run office (its version might be ok, provided everything can save the same)
                                chauffeur me around

                                I think I'll just stick to my netbook.
                                Law which is uncertain in its interpretation or capricious in its application fails to fulfill its essential function.

                                -E.H. Carr

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