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  • cgseanp1
    Veteran Member
    • Dec 2008
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    Wiping computer clean

    I was talking to a guy at work, and he said that to wipe the computer hard drive clean, you just have to buy, or get, a copy of windows. Once you go to install the disk, it will search for a previous version on windows, and then it will ask if you want to uninstall. Does this sound right?

    I have a virus that I cant get rid of and I think i may have to resort to wiping it clean and starting over.

    thanks
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    NSR500
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    • Aug 2006
    • 19530

    Whatever OS you are going to install should format the drive. Just pay attention to the installation prompts as you progress through the install.

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      putput
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      • Mar 2009
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      • #4
        odysseus
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        • Dec 2005
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        No, that is not a "wipe", that is a reformatting. A complete wipe goes through every sector of the hard drive and overwrites with a random or programmatic set of bits. There are different methodologies depending on your requirements. A free one online that is good is DBAN's boot and nuke. Be warned: this destroys ALL data on the harddrive.

        However your question actually is outside the requirements of a true wipe. If all you are trying to do is reinstall the OS, then yes, just reinstall windows and have the windows CD/DVD boot install "delete" the old install. This essentially will reformat the harddrives fat table and your new OS install will overwrite the old one. Again, this is not a true "wipe".
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        • #5
          kpw001
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          • Aug 2007
          • 244

          Originally posted by NSR500
          Whatever OS you are going to install should format the drive. Just pay attention to the installation prompts as you progress through the install.
          +1

          Always format if your going to reinitialize your system. Especially if you're dealing with a virus. Follow the prompts making sure to format.

          Wiping overwrites the drive with pseudo-random data. It can take hours or days depending on how big the drive and how many passes. Not what you're looking for.

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          • #6
            Corbin Dallas
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            • May 2006
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            Originally posted by cgseanp1
            I was talking to a guy at work, and he said that to wipe the computer hard drive clean, you just have to buy, or get, a copy of windows. Once you go to install the disk, it will search for a previous version on windows, and then it will ask if you want to uninstall. Does this sound right?

            I have a virus that I cant get rid of and I think i may have to resort to wiping it clean and starting over.

            thanks
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            • #7
              high_revs
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              • Feb 2006
              • 7683

              what op wants to do is just format. there's no need to run a dvdo 5220.22-m navso, etc. data destruction routine. not unless you're giving away the drive and youhave sensitive information you want to protect.

              insert install disk -> select delete partition -> create partition -> install windows "x" version and go thru the process.

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              • #8
                Barbarossa
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 4436

                Or Just buy a new HD?

                HD's do go bad over time/cycles. If it is an old HD then I'd just junk it.
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                • #9
                  Noobert
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3341

                  You can reformat your drives, which will wipe them clean. However, if you really want to clean it up from the prying eyes of the FBI or ATF, a .223 through the platter is the surefire way to do it.
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                  • #10
                    badandy
                    Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 152

                    Originally posted by odysseus
                    No, that is not a "wipe", that is a reformatting. A complete wipe goes through every sector of the hard drive and overwrites with a random or programmatic set of bits. There are different methodologies depending on your requirements. A free one online that is good is DBAN's boot and nuke. Be warned: this destroys ALL data on the harddrive.

                    However your question actually is outside the requirements of a true wipe. If all you are trying to do is reinstall the OS, then yes, just reinstall windows and have the windows CD/DVD boot install "delete" the old install. This essentially will reformat the harddrives fat table and your new OS install will overwrite the old one. Again, this is not a true "wipe".
                    This suggestion IS a complete clearing of ANY info on your hard drive... However the other suggestions here are suitable also...

                    It sounds like like your just trying to lose a virus which a format and re-install will accomplish.

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                    • #11
                      cgseanp1
                      Veteran Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 4651

                      Yes, I was just trying to get rid of a virus. Now, I think I got rid of the virus and the damn computer won't turn on. Just keeps rebooting itself. Everyone now and then it will turn all the way on, but pretty much just restarts itself shortly after. I can't start it in safe mode or anything. And unfortunately, I don't have a recovery disk since this isn't my computer. I guess I need to locate a copy of Windows XP and try to boot from the disk? If this computer has XP media center edition 2005, do I need to get that same XP, or will any version of XP work like home or professional?

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                      • #12
                        badandy
                        Member
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 152

                        There are many versions available, but it will likely be a bootleg, which I have, one I've used for years, but it is not without circumstance. I would like to suggest Linux as a FREE alternative to Windows. Otherwise, if your limited in your computer skills, I will have to suggest buying a retail version of Windows. I primarily use XP Pro for work, and Linux at home. I didn't care much for Vista, but have also been testing Windows 7, and it seems to be the next best "Windows OS" I will never leave Linux, and for the needs of the majority, it is 100% complete.

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                        • #13
                          cgseanp1
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                          • Dec 2008
                          • 4651

                          This is my roomates computer so I am going to have to put XP back on it for her. I have seen some copies of XP on ebay for fairly cheap that have COA and what not. This computer is older and wouldnt even be able to support windows 7 or id just get that.

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                          • #14
                            SLYoteBoy
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 840

                            Yeah just get a xp cd , go into BIOS , set 1st boot device CD drive , or if its a dell f12 will let you choose what you want to boot off of first , choose cd. it loads the cd , gives some choses , forgot what it is , but delete partition , create partition , format (not quick style) , and then it should start installing. use a cd key , if it doesnt work , it will have you call them , tell them you had to format / dog ate your old HDD , whatever just make it sound reasonable. say its only been installed on this computer etc.install virus protection (i use AVG cuz im a cheap bastard) install drivers , chipset , video , usb , sound etc. then update windows fully. if its all still good then activate windows last. g2g
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                            • #15
                              badandy
                              Member
                              • Dec 2009
                              • 152

                              Originally posted by SLYoteBoy
                              Yeah just get a xp cd , go into BIOS , set 1st boot device CD drive , or if its a dell f12 will let you choose what you want to boot off of first , choose cd. it loads the cd , gives some choses , forgot what it is , but delete partition , create partition , format (not quick style) , and then it should start installing. use a cd key , if it doesnt work , it will have you call them , tell them you had to format / dog ate your old HDD , whatever just make it sound reasonable. say its only been installed on this computer etc.install virus protection (i use AVG cuz im a cheap bastard) install drivers , chipset , video , usb , sound etc. then update windows fully. if its all still good then activate windows last. g2g
                              As He said... DON'T use AVG, it doesn't have the features that Avast4Home does, just a strong recommendation. Avast is also COMPLETELY FREE for home use.

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