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  • Mike-4
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 792

    Apple iMacs - truth or fiction?

    Thinking about getting an Apple iMac desktop. Is it true Apple's don't get virus'? Anyone have an opinion on the iMacs? Any good Apple forums out there?

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  • #2
    blackberg
    Veteran Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 3058

    its is much harder for a mac to get a virus, and right now I dont think there are any widely distributed mac viruses. so your chances of catching one are virtually zero.
    macrumors.com has very active forums

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    • #3
      Gijoe
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 126

      I have a Mac and I love it.. 2 years old and no viruses

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      • #4
        Mister BLASTEE
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2008
        • 754

        Once you go Mac....

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        • #5
          JDay
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2008
          • 19393

          No its not true, they only reason there aren't too many mac viruses in the wild is because they aren't widely used. More Macintosh viruses have been coming out since their market share has risen though.
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          • #6
            Casual_Shooter
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            • Sep 2006
            • 11733

            Some day, there will be just as many virus infections for macs as there are for PC's. But for now, you are MUCH safer using a Mac.
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            • #7
              nick
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              CGN Contributor
              • Aug 2008
              • 19151

              That's not true at all. The main reasons we hear less about infections in Macs are that there're fewer Macs than PCs (and so they make less juicy a target overall), Apple's policy on being very closed-lipped on any "imperfections" in Macs (similar to Microsoft's policy from up to about 10 years ago or so, but Microsoft grew up), and this rumor about 'Macs not getting infected', which leads to a lot of Mac users not even having an antivirus on their computer. As such, they often don't even know they're infected. They just see their computer getting slower and slower, and eventually buy a new one. The first thing a Windows user thinks of when his computer gets slower is an infection (Windows users have been scared enough by now to be cautious ), which is probably why we also hear more about Windows infections.

              Don't forget that it doesn't have to be malware specifically targeted at Macs, either. A virus or rootkit targeted at UNIX/Linux would likely work just fine on a Mac (OS X is UNIX-based). And rootkits do come from the UNIX world.

              Malware targeted at some applications, such as iTunes/Quicktime would work fine, too.

              There're also very few good antimalware packages for Macs, as most antimalware vendors don't see enough demand for it due to the myths like the one we're discussing here.

              Having said that, OS X and Apple hardware can be great when they fit your requirements. Just make sure to get a good anti-malware package, and don't fall for the stupid rumors spread by the ignorant and not too honest marketing people.
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                nick
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Aug 2008
                • 19151

                Reminds me of a funny (to me, at least) story from a couple of years ago. One of the people emailing to one of my clients complained that he couldn't send an attachment in. It turned out that the antivirus on the company's mail server was stripping the attachment due to being infected.

                When I emailed the guy explaining it, he promptly replied that it was impossible, for he was using a Mac, and Macs don't get viruses. I sent him the screenshot of the relevant entries in the antivirus log on the mail server, and he was reasonable enough to admit that there might be a problem on his end. He then asked for a recommendation on an antivirus for him Mac. That's right, he didn't have one installed.

                He ended up getting McAfee. Sure enough, his Mac was infected. He then went ahead and scanned his old Macs, that he kept "just in case", but didn't use because they got slower (which he attributed to age and more data on them. Yes, he wasn't very computer-literate). Sure enough, they were infected, as well. He ended up having some tech wipe those old Macs and reinstall everything from the scratch, and lo and behold, they were actually fast enough for him.

                He was really pissed at the sales guy at the Apple store whose solution to this guy's Mac slowness problem was buying a newer Mac...

                Coincidentally, since that guy also runs a business, I got another client
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                • #9
                  Lyte-
                  CGSSA Associate
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2063

                  As others have mentioned the correct answer is [x] False
                  Originally posted by Kestryll
                  I know you and frankly since we're being honest you disgust me.
                  In all honesty I waffle between finding you disgusting and pitying you that your life is so void of anything substantial that you measure yourself by 'conquests' and who you know that can get you in where.

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                  • #10
                    JAvendan
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 176

                    ... and don't forget the applecare

                    save my ***** a few times!

                    joel

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                    • #11
                      imtheomegaman
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 1354

                      Originally posted by JDay
                      No its not true, they only reason there aren't too many mac viruses in the wild is because they aren't widely used. More Macintosh viruses have been coming out since their market share has risen though.
                      While technically true, I can tell you that in my business (basically a Mac IT consultant type of guy) I have yet to run into a mac virus under OS X, all the machines are "unprotected"

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                      • #12
                        hooookup
                        Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 349

                        I recently switched to a Macbook Pro from a PC about a year ago and I couldn't be more happy with the switch. My Mac is extremely fast and very reliable. Boots up in 30 seconds. Takes a little getting used to but once you get it down you'll wonder why you didn't make the change sooner. I take mine with me everywhere I go. Best computer I have ever owned.

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                        • #13
                          Bug Splat
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 6561

                          Originally posted by imtheomegaman
                          While technically true, I can tell you that in my business (basically a Mac IT consultant type of guy) I have yet to run into a mac virus under OS X, all the machines are "unprotected"
                          I've run into several and I don't even work on Apple products. Nick is right about many people not even knowing they have one. Apples solution for anything is just reinstall. Well crap, my job with PC's would be a hell of a lot faster if I just did that. Apples are the worst to try and fix. Apple has done such a great job of keeping idiots from hurting themselves that once a virus gets in one its almost impossible to truly get out.

                          I think Apple makes a fine machine. They are great for the non-tech type. I recommend them a lot actually to home owners. Business owners, that's a different story. Apple is at least 10 years behind in the Networking world that Linux and Microsoft have. I find it funny when a Mac owners tries to brag about what his new mac can do and all I can think about is me doing the same thing with Windows 98 or Redhat. Smile and nod, smile and nod

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                          • #14
                            imtheomegaman
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2009
                            • 1354

                            Originally posted by Bug Splat
                            Apples are the worst to try and fix.
                            Now that is funny.

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                            • #15
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              Originally posted by imtheomegaman
                              While technically true, I can tell you that in my business (basically a Mac IT consultant type of guy) I have yet to run into a mac virus under OS X, all the machines are "unprotected"
                              How do you know you've never run into an infected machine if you never check them?
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                              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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