iphone=verizon

[cyphr02]

no point in Vz iPhine with the droid out, that thing looks pretty cool. Not a big fan of Verizon's intrusive software though

[JDay]

though I agree about the Android platform - open platforms are the way to go at the smartest move, the need to jailbreak an iPhone is becoming less and less of a need, unlike the first few models. with recent OS upgrades, and at over 100k apps, there is little need to load 'unapproved' apps as almost everything you want is a legit app readily available.

the iPhone IS the phone everyone wants to be. Even Android is playing catch up - very very few apps available. give it time, but still, everyone develops for Apple and iPhone.

Not true and not the point, Apple and AT&T as of now get to decide what apps you can and can not have for your phone. One example, Google Voice.

[glock_this]

so what if they get to decide what apps come loaded... there are +120,000 apps.. more daily .. is there really something at this stage you cannot get?

The apps, IMHO, really make the phone difference between the iPhone and Android. Believe me, I am an Android fan, BUT they are way behind in apps and that is, at this stage, part of what the AVERAGE consumer may consider. a few hundred apps or a hundred thousand plus, you decide. the interfaces and GUI and function are pretty similar, and will only get better in Android since it is open platform. but again, they are still being the 8 ball right now.

and hell.. everyone knows ATT sucks as a carrier for signal & cust service and VZW sucks as they have few cool phones to select from and are known to hamstring their phones.

[beerup949]

My mom works for Verizon and it will be when they get their 4g network, most likely 2010-2011.

[sfwdiy]

so what if they get to decide what apps come loaded... there are +120,000 apps.. more daily .. is there really something at this stage you cannot get?

The apps, IMHO, really make the phone difference between the iPhone and Android. Believe me, I am an Android fan, BUT they are way behind in apps and that is, at this stage, part of what the AVERAGE consumer may consider. a few hundred apps or a hundred thousand plus, you decide. the interfaces and GUI and function are pretty similar, and will only get better in Android since it is open platform. but again, they are still being the 8 ball right now.

and hell.. everyone knows ATT sucks as a carrier for signal & cust service and VZW sucks as they have few cool phones to select from and are known to hamstring their phones.

It's not a matter of what apps come loaded on the phone, it's a matter of what apps Apple and AT$T decide to allow into the app store in the first place. They denied the official Google Voice app from the app store. This really torqued me as I use Google Voice for everything.

From everything I've read, Verizon hasn't crippled the Droid in any way, with the exception of disallowing tethering. But that's what PDANet is for.

--B

[JDay]

so what if they get to decide what apps come loaded... there are +120,000 apps.. more daily .. is there really something at this stage you cannot get?

Yes, Apple has final say on what apps can and cannot be on the app store. I also wasn't talking about pre-loaded apps. Just try to find a Google Voice app on the app store, or a tethering app. Most of those 120,000+ apps on the app store are useless too.

[glock_this]

come on... 120k apps and most are useless.. not!

I agree about the google voice, it is cool as I used in on the Droid, but it will happen in time, or something similar. almost everything has happened in time on the phone.. also, think of all the 100 things they did before anyone else, so hard to hold this against them.

I also wasn't thinking of preloaded apps really.. which is why I noted +120k apps to select from. that is a hella crazy amount and I bet if a developer has resources to use 1 SDK and develop for 1 platform, it will be the iPhone first as it is prove, the model is in place, etc

[JDay]

come on... 120k apps and most are useless.. not!

I agree about the google voice, it is cool as I used in on the Droid, but it will happen in time, or something similar. almost everything has happened in time on the phone.. also, think of all the 100 things they did before anyone else, so hard to hold this against them.

I also wasn't thinking of preloaded apps really.. which is why I noted +120k apps to select from. that is a hella crazy amount and I bet if a developer has resources to use 1 SDK and develop for 1 platform, it will be the iPhone first as it is prove, the model is in place, etc

How many of those apps are a. useful, b. aren't a copy of another app and c. aren't a game? Your 120k+ number just dropped to the hundreds, possibly lower.

[Californio]

Maybe after June 2010, I hope. AT&T has poor coverage in my area.

http://www.macrumors.com/2009/11/28/apple-starts-field-testing-next-generation-iphone-31/

iPhone developer Pandav has informed MacRumors that they have spotted usage records for an unreleased iPhone in their app's analytics. The app used was iBART [Free / Paid], a public transportation guide for the San Francisco train system.

PinchMedia who provides the analytics for the application breaks down customer usage including what specific devices are being used. This list of devices is reported to developers using internal device identification numbers assigned by Apple. In this case, "iPhone3,1" was first spotted in Pandav's usage logs in November. This "iPhone3,1" identifier does not match up with any shipping iPhones. The last iPhone released to the public was the iPhone 3GS which carries the identification string "iPhone2,1".

References to "iPhone3,1" was first discovered in the iPhone firmware files back in August, but this seems to be the first time that it has been spotted "in the wild". Apple similarly began testing the iPhone 3GS (iPhone2,1) back in October of 2008 about 8 months ahead of its launch. At the time, the usage was similarly focused in the San Francisco Bay Area where Apple is located.

There have been few details about what the next generation iPhone might include, though early rumors had pegged a multi-core processor that could enhance performance significantly. There have also been rumors of Verizon compatibility as early as mid 2010.

[wilit]

the iPhone was originally pitched to Verizon.... Verizon didn't think the concept was viable...



IDIOTS!.

That's not why. It's because we didn't want to bend over and take it for an exclusive contract with Apple. I have heard internal rumors that that the iPhone will be coming to VzW next year.

[glock_this]

its also, in part, that VZW is known for ham stringing any phone that gets on their network as they do not like to support anything they do not have to with calls and tech support and cust service. but they are also known for overly testing, if not overly overly testing, phones before they allow them in. but when they do, they often limit their true capabilities... Apple was reported not cool with that.

But then again, guys that crack and hack these phones have found hidden abilities built into the iPhone from day 1 that were never turned on. So, they ham strung their own phones.

[jarhead995]

the iPhone was originally pitched to Verizon.... Verizon didn't think the concept was viable...



IDIOTS!.

It'll be here in a year when the AT&T contract ends just wait for it.

[2DoorImpala]

Installous ftw

[FreedomIsNotFree]

At the beginning of September a report came out estimating the Android Market had over 10,000 apps. And most are free. Not too shabby I'd say.

http://www.androidguys.com/2009/09/08/android-market-estimated-to-have-10000-apps/

Currently, 3 of the 4 top wireless carriers in the nation carry an Android OS based device. Everyone but AT&T.

The Android customer base has exploded over the past 2 months. Considering the open nature of the OS it makes it very easy for devs to write new cool apps. Not just that, but the entire look and feel of Android devices can be manipulated. The Android device you have today can be completely different in 6 months via updates that are performed OTA(over the air).

In regards to why VZW didn't get in bed with Apple on the iPhone...what many fail to realize is Apple gets the vast majority of the profit from the data plans the iPhones require.

Huge money is made off data charges. It's the future of wireless and I don't blame VZW on bit for not bowing down to Apple and their ridiculous profit demands. You basically had a newcomer to the game demand too much from the most profitable company in the game.

The achilles of the iPhone is the network its on. If anyone thinks Apple isn't chomping at the bit to more than double their customer base while taking advantage of a better data network they are simply crazy. I would be very surprised NOT to see an iPhone or similar device on VZW within the year.

[caoboy]

I keep telling my mom to wait for the Iphone to come out to verizon...I know it will eventually..but she's about to switch back to atnt just for it. She purchased an itouch, and can't get over how useful it is...I keep telling her that the 3g network for atnt sucks BAWLZ and she'll end up hating it.

If Apple really does go through to VZW that'll be awesome...I just wish 'bundle plans' were cheaper...