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  • Californio
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    • Dec 2006
    • 4169

    Does Windows 7 do DOS?

    XP runs DOS based programs, Vista does not. Anyone know if Win7 will run DOS programs. I have some older radio programing software that needs DOS.

    TIA
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    professionalcoyotehunter
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    • Nov 2008
    • 12805

    It should from what I hear.

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      Rob454
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      • Feb 2006
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      Does anyone know where you can buy a DOS program. I need one to program some old commercial fire alarms
      PM me if you do know or respond here
      thanx
      Rob

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        ocabj
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        • Oct 2005
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          Super Spy
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          • Mar 2009
          • 3461

          I'll have my new Windows 7 PC tomorrow....If you want to send me a copy I'll tell you if it executes....
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            danito
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            • Mar 2006
            • 298

            Windows 7 has a compatibility mode to allow older programs written for an earlier versions of Windows to possibly run in Windows 7.

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              Californio
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              • Dec 2006
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              Looks like if you have Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate you can download from Microsoft a XP Virtual Machine and run your program in XP mode. Sort of Boot Camp on OSX.
              "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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                odysseus
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2005
                • 10407

                Right. Sometimes the easiest and maybe more stable way for those not able or wanting to tweak these older apps is to just virtual up an XP OS and run it that way when you need to.
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                  Dangerpin
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                  • Aug 2009
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                  It should be noted that XP mode has some hefty requirements to work well, aside from A CPU that supports chip-level virtualization you also should really have a few extra GB of RAM installed.
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                    SmokinMr2
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                    • Jan 2009
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                    • #11
                      Big O
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                      • Oct 2007
                      • 379

                      Originally posted by Californio
                      Looks like if you have Windows 7 Professional or Ultimate you can download from Microsoft a XP Virtual Machine and run your program in XP mode. Sort of Boot Camp on OSX.
                      Boot Camp requires that you partition the hard drive for each system. Then you can only boot one OS at a time. Is this the same thing?

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                      • #12
                        1JimMarch
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2008
                        • 1803

                        I have a lot of experience with Windows XP virtual machines under Linux. I don't know if Windows 7 is doing quite the same thing but if it is, the entire XP system lives in a single file on the Win7 disk.

                        In my Linux system, the XP virtual machine lives in a file that maxes out at 15gig the way I set it up, and will grow to meet that as I load it up. I can add a second "virtual disk file" if needed, but I can also store data from within the virtual machine on the host machine's hard disk. From within the XP virtual machine, I have a drive letter created that points upwards into the host OS file system. That way, all the data I work with inside XP is actually on Linux disks and is available to Linux as well.

                        If the XP guest OS ever goes screwy in any way, I can throw it out as it's just a file, and reload that file from backups.

                        The guest OS needs a piece of software that tells it how to use the host system resources. Again, I suspect Win7 is similar, or at least, the XP machine you can download from MS has what Virtualbox calls "guest additions" built in.

                        You can get Virtualbox for free for Mac, Windows or Linux hosts here:



                        Note that a lot of Win7 systems are shipping as 64bit flavor, which means you need the "AMD64" variant at that page. Even if your CPU is from Intel, they licensed the 64bit stuff from AMD so it's properly called "AMD style 64bit".

                        I do know that Virtualbox has been in development for three years that I know of, so...it might be more stable than MS's virtual machine system.

                        Once you "build a virtual machine" (specifying resources like memory, etc.) you boot an OS into it from CD or an ISO file (a file equivelent to a CD in layout), load the guest OS, then install the guest additions for that OS. Guest addition software is available for XP, Win2000 if you want something with less resources, Linux and a few oddballs. Not DOS itself unfortunately, or Win98 which would be sweet for light needs and small memory footprints.

                        Once a VM guest is built, it can be transferred from host to host, even across OS types. In other words, I can set up a working XP system on my machine and then copy the data files it lives in (the main file plus descriptors) over to another computer running Virtualbox.

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                        • #13
                          JDay
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 19393

                          If you have Windows 7 Professional or higher and have VM enabled on your CPU you can install XP Mode to run anything that will not run under 7.

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                            1JimMarch
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                            • Jul 2008
                            • 1803

                            Virtualbox doesn't need hardware virtualization features in the CPU. It helps, don't get me wrong, but it's not required.

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                            • #15
                              JDay
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 19393

                              Originally posted by 1JimMarch
                              Virtualbox doesn't need hardware virtualization features in the CPU. It helps, don't get me wrong, but it's not required.
                              I believe hardware virtualization is required if you want to run XP apps on your windows 7 desktop instead of in a dedicated VM.
                              Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                              The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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