Political Action Mobilization Platform

[obeygiant]

This came up in a discussion about AB962 and I started looking around to see what was available.

With the direction that CGN is heading it may be prudent to discuss infrastructure and how it can assist us in reaching as many people as possible.

The idea that I had in mind was something akin to the setup at Freedomspeaks.org This would be a base for facilitating communication to our city,county,state and nationally elected officials.

A site that Users could create letters that could be sent out via:

• fax (similar in nature to a RightFax or Equisys fax server)
• email (distribution lists)
• mail

Organize online petitions

contact information for the media

• newspaper
• magazines
• television
• radio

contact information for those involved with firearm,ammo,accessory sales

• commercial retailers
• ffl's
• gun shops
• gun clubs
• shooting ranges
• online retailers

One example would be this product similar in nature to the one below but with additional features.

AMP, by Radical Designs (www.radicaldesigns.org

What does everyone think? Ideas? Suggestions?

[Librarian]

I think the concept is generally good, excepting online petitions.

To be useful, such a site would have to be open; I've seen many such petitions signed by 'Mickey Mouse' and worse, and by repute those are pretty much ignored.

[obeygiant]

I think the concept is generally good, excepting online petitions.

To be useful, such a site would have to be open; I've seen many such petitions signed by 'Mickey Mouse' and worse, and by repute those are pretty much ignored.

For an online petition to be valid we have to verify the identity of the signer and address of residence.

Petition Requirements
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[Can'thavenuthingood]

For an online petition to be valid we have to verify the identity of the signer and address of residence.

Is there such an animal as a VALID online petition?
One the politicians could utilize and trust?

Its been my understanding that online petitions are pretty much an effort in futility other than a gathering of email addresses, is that incorrect?

How would one go about verifying a signers identity and physical address to make the petition credible?

Vick

[POLICESTATE]

Is there such an animal as a VALID online petition?
One the politicians could utilize and trust?

Its been my understanding that online petitions are pretty much an effort in futility other than a gathering of email addresses, is that incorrect?

How would one go about verifying a signers identity and physical address to make the petition credible?

Vick

Get all the online petition signers veri-chipped, that could help prove identity, oh wait maybe that's not such a good idea.

You would think however in this day and age that everyone would have some sort of digital signing certificate they could get to be used not just for online transactions but also things like this. Like Verisign without the big price tag.

[Can'thavenuthingood]

Get all the online petition signers veri-chipped, that could help prove identity, oh wait maybe that's not such a good idea.

You would think however in this day and age that everyone would have some sort of digital signing certificate they could get to be used not just for online transactions but also things like this. Like Verisign without the big price tag.

Something within Calguns.net to be verified at time of registration?

Or maybe voluntarily to gain access to and participate in the Petition program?

A super duper cookie?
No, couldn't verify some else is not pushing my button.

Vick

[artherd]

I'm only 30% confident I understand what you're getting at - and those sites 404 - but I think we're working on it.

[obeygiant]

Is there such an animal as a VALID online petition?
One the politicians could utilize and trust?

Its been my understanding that online petitions are pretty much an effort in futility other than a gathering of email addresses, is that incorrect?

How would one go about verifying a signers identity and physical address to make the petition credible?

Vick

The site would require registration just like any other forum does. Probably require verification of residence against voter registration records. Something along the lines of Sacramento's
Voter Registration and Vote by Mail (Absentee) Ballot Lookup

Info on voter privacy here

[Can'thavenuthingood]

The site would require registration just like any other forum does. Probably require verification of residence against voter registration records. Something along the lines of Sacramento's
Voter Registration and Vote by Mail (Absentee) Ballot Lookup

Info on voter privacy here

I'm looking at this from the standpoint of a politician or bureaucrat wanting to disqualify the petition.
How do you know who is driving my computer?

How will we verify it is indeed me signing the petition and not some hacker?

Vick

[artherd]

I'm working on a way to verify the identities of most if not all calgunners who would want to participate in something like this. It would be elective.

[obeygiant]

I'm looking at this from the standpoint of a politician or bureaucrat wanting to disqualify the petition.
How do you know who is driving my computer?

How will we verify it is indeed me signing the petition and not some hacker?

Vick

[obeygiant]

I'm working on a way to verify the identities of most if not all calgunners who would want to participate in something like this. It would be elective.

I thought that might be the case. Good news indeed.

[obeygiant]

This document has some good ideas on verification: Online Signature Gathering for California Initiatives

[obeygiant]

This section comes from the California Internet Voting Task Force which was commissioned by the Secretary of State. Unfortunately it is dated
January 18, 2000.

The concern they expressed here was that if a voter/user's was left in it's original state and not required to re-authorize it could be a security risk. we could mitigate that by requiring a re-authorization request at a regular interval, quarterly perhaps.

Appendix A

California Internet Voting Task Force

Technical Committee Recommendations

Table of Contents

4 Internet Petition Signing