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  • lone shooter
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 2469

    Mesh router

    Going to give Frontier a try (wheel are in motion). Thinking of breaking down and setting up a mesh WIFI setup. Looking at this one https://www.costco.com/netgear---orb...100750793.html. $380 thru 3/13. Any other brand/model that may be cheaper and still get the job done?

    Our house is 1740 SFT and has masonry for walls NOT drywall. That is why I feel we need mesh.

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    DaveInOroValley
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2010
    • 8967

    Have a Netgear Orbi system, it has been great and fairly unobtrusive. That's a decent price I paid a bit more a year ago. One mention though That ad isn't really clear if they are including two satts my came with one and it wasn't that inexpensive It may be the main router and one but it wasn't clear from their ad.
    Last edited by DaveInOroValley; 02-17-2022, 4:42 PM.
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    • #3
      Robotron2k84
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2017
      • 2013

      As always, if you can run cat6a cabling to the other APs, it will always work better and faster than mesh. 5GHz 802.11ac mesh tops-out at about 3-400Mbps, so anything faster will require structured cabling, anyway.

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      • #4
        DaveInOroValley
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        • Jan 2010
        • 8967

        Originally posted by Robotron2k84
        As always, if you can run cat6a cabling to the other APs, it will always work better and faster than mesh. 5GHz 802.11ac mesh tops-out at about 3-400Mbps, so anything faster will require structured cabling, anyway.
        Just an FYI:

        The Netgear Orbi 6 hit a top speed of 666Mbps -- at a distance of 75 feet. Up close, the number was 871Mbps, which is the fastest speed we've ever seen from a mesh router in that test. How impressive?
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        • #5
          lone shooter
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2014
          • 2469

          Originally posted by DaveInOroValley
          Have a Netgear Orbi system, it has been great and fairly unobtrusive. That's a decent price I paid a bit more a year ago. One mention though That ad isn't really clear if they are including two satts my came with one and it wasn't that inexpensive It may be the main router and one but it wasn't clear from their ad.
          Yes, it's for a router and 2 satellites.
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          • #6
            bugsy714
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 2418

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            Voice typing will butcher whatever I was trying to say

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            • #7
              Robotron2k84
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2017
              • 2013

              Originally posted by DaveInOroValley
              Just an FYI:

              The Netgear Orbi 6 hit a top speed of 666Mbps -- at a distance of 75 feet. Up close, the number was 871Mbps, which is the fastest speed we've ever seen from a mesh router in that test. How impressive?
              Realistically, not many setups will be able to achieve real-world speeds that fast. Crosstalk from adjacent APs and masonry walls will be a buffer to increased performance. Most endpoint devices are still 802.11ac on the client side, so while you may get a faster link between APs, you are unlikely to get that from the majority of the client stations (devices).

              Also, adding more APs degrades a mesh geometrically as they all repeat transmissions and stomp on each other, unless you've actually gone to the trouble of mapping your frequency response and adjusted radios for Tx power. Yes, the newer meshes deal with some of that on their own, but if you take a pro meter around, you find they are still screaming at each other. The logic isn't very good in consumer gear. If needing more than two satellites, then cat6a should still be considered.

              Don't get suckered into the hype of gigabit performance across the mesh, it rarely works that way in real life, and more clients means more retransmissions (slower speed).

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              • #8
                DaveInOroValley
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                • Jan 2010
                • 8967

                Originally posted by lone shooter
                Yes, it's for a router and 2 satellites.
                That's a really good deal then.
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                • #9
                  DaveInOroValley
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
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                  • Jan 2010
                  • 8967

                  Originally posted by Robotron2k84
                  Realistically, not many setups will be able to achieve real-world speeds that fast. Crosstalk from adjacent APs and masonry walls will be a buffer to increased performance. Most endpoint devices are still 802.11ac on the client side, so while you may get a faster link between APs, you are unlikely to get that from the majority of the client stations (devices).

                  Also, adding more APs degrades a mesh geometrically as they all repeat transmissions and stomp on each other, unless you've actually gone to the trouble of mapping your frequency response and adjusted radios for Tx power. Yes, the newer meshes deal with some of that on their own, but if you take a pro meter around, you find they are still screaming at each other. The logic isn't very good in consumer gear. If needing more than two satellites, then cat6a should still be considered.

                  Don't get suckered into the hype of gigabit performance across the mesh, it rarely works that way in real life, and more clients means more retransmissions (slower speed).
                  I regularly get speeds of 500 plus wireless anywhere in a 2600 sq. ft home so I'm ok with that.
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                  • #10
                    the_tunaman
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                    • Dec 2012
                    • 2367

                    I replaced a Nighthawk router with three extenders with an Orbi with two satellites probably a year ago, and it has been great. We have a 3500 square foot home and get great coverage throughout.
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                    • #11
                      command_liner
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 1175

                      Orbi routers work well here. Am using one now. Placement is important. Realize that the satellites also have ethernet ports and you get darn good speed from plugging into one of those ports.
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                      • #12
                        67Cuda
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2013
                        • 1709

                        Costco also carries google mesh if your game. I have the older of the two offered and it can hit 500mb down. Both come with 4 units and are $220 and $320 respectively.
                        Last edited by 67Cuda; 02-17-2022, 10:04 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Uncivil Engineer
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 1101

                          Why not just wire the house with Ethernet. Then you can add wireless access points wherever you need them. It's better to use wired Ethernet for the back haul than wifi over WiFi.

                          For access points look at ubiquiti unifi. The access point u6 lite is $99.

                          The ubiquiti stuff works really well. It will do a analysis of available channels and automatically select the best channels. You can add as many access points as you like and they will properly work together. That allows you to put the modern and router where ever you like.

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                          • #14
                            Robotron2k84
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2017
                            • 2013

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                            • #15
                              ibanezfoo
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 11680

                              Nice nerd flex. I also hardwire everything and cable my houses but in reality most people are just looking at facebook or whatever and don't require any meaningful bandwidth. Even 4K streaming works fine on average equipment nowdays.
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