Networking/Cable info request

[hardlyworking]

Alrighty, its been a LONG time since physics, current through a wire causes a magnetic field, magnetic field creates a current in a wire etc...

I have a workshop in the back of the property, with my reloading setup, wife's COVID office, tack-room for the horses etc.

It has underground conduit from the main breaker box with a "fairly high" amperage circuit running 240V and 120V out to the workshop

Can I fish some shielded CAT6 down that conduit and into the workshop from the main house?

I mean, obviously I can, but will there be crazy cross-talk/packet loss/interference from the networking cable being inside and millimeters away from an active AC power lines in the conduit?

The alternative is to just lay bare wire on the ground for 30 yards (or put it into some kind of above ground conduit) but that's going to drive the Mrs. crazy.

Advice requested!
Thanks guys!

[hardlyworking]

I can terminate the ends of the cable, if there are particular cables you would recommend given the constraints, I'm all ears!

[steve91104]

Not an electrician, but I believe having high and low voltage stuff in the same conduit can be a safety hazard.

I don't think noise would be an issue though since the cable is shielded.

[FF90]

NO cat 5 / 6 should be a minimum of 3' from A/C wires, unless crossing at a 90 degree, Most Cat 5/6 is NOT shielded, and even with shielding a close parallel run is not recommended. Also NEC says do not mix high voltage and low voltage in same conduit

[Offspring]

NO cat 5 / 6 should be a minimum of 3' from A/C wires, unless crossing at a 90 degree, Most Cat 5/6 is NOT shielded, and even with shielding a close parallel run is not recommended. Also NEC says do not mix high voltage and low voltage in same conduit

This is correct by both practice and code.
Even if you did you do it you then have the dance of not grounding the shield vs grounding one or both ends.

Get a ubiquity wireless bridge.

[McGuiver]

You could run fiber optic cable in the conduit with the AC power. It will not conduct power, and no cross talk. Use a media converter at each end if necessary...


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[ibanezfoo]

You could run fiber optic cable in the conduit with the AC power. It will not conduct power, and no cross talk. Use a media converter at each end if necessary...


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+1 And if you are going to pull a pair of strands just pull a few pairs all at once. Sometimes they break or just randomly stop working. Double check your single mode / multi mode and make sure they match.

[the86d]

Coax MOCA BRIDGES On both ends with rg6?

[Robotron2k84]

+1 And if you are going to pull a pair of strands just pull a few pairs all at once. Sometimes they break or just randomly stop working. Double check your single mode / multi mode and make sure they match.

Go single mode. It has longer reach and potential for higher bandwidth. Cost used to be an issue, but you can buy bulk 8-pair bundled AFL-ADSS single mode for $300 / KM.

The issue then becomes getting familiar with terminating and polishing ends / connectors or finding a tech to do it.

Media converters are also dirt cheap. 1GB SFP 2-port converters for each end are under $100 each, and SFP modules for LC and GbE are under $50 each.

Such a difference from even 10 years ago.

[hermosabeach]

How hard is your ground?

30 yards is not the longest run

A 4 hour rental with a Home Depot ditch witch will get you a nice trench from point A to B. Run your choice of conduit PVC, ABS etc Fish your new communication lines.

[hermosabeach]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=axKtUUXw0F4

[ibanezfoo]

Go single mode. It has longer reach and potential for higher bandwidth. Cost used to be an issue, but you can buy bulk 8-pair bundled AFL-ADSS single mode for $300 / KM.

The issue then becomes getting familiar with terminating and polishing ends / connectors or finding a tech to do it.

Media converters are also dirt cheap. 1GB SFP 2-port converters for each end are under $100 each, and SFP modules for LC and GbE are under $50 each.

Such a difference from even 10 years ago.

Polishing ends and putting connectors on SUCKS and you really need the right equipment to do it. Just pay someone to come do it for you.

[Robotron2k84]

There are “snap-on” SC/LC connectors that don't require epoxy and polishing, they just use a waveguide and butt the fiber up against the ferrule and have a mechanical friction clamp for the sheath.

I’m highly skeptical of these connectors as they seem like a prime source of failure if the cable is tugged on, even a little. The upside is you can re-terminate them in 10 seconds without throwing away the connector, but you might need to strip a little more off the fiber.

Proper termination, in my mind, still requires glue, crimp and polishing.

A $100 termination kit will probably get you by for 32 connectors on an 8-pair cable that you’ll never need to replace until past 240 GbE.

[tay]

Might consider digging a PVC conduit, does not need to be deep or run bare Burial UV Resistant Ethernet cable.

https://www.amazon.com/UbiGear-Waterproof-Resistant-Oxygen-Free-Construction/dp/B081G7G634/ref=sr_1_13?crid=32O2X7K1MVG4A&dchild=1&keywords=underground+cat6+ethernet+cable&qid=1619024764&s=electronics&sprefix=underground+c%2Celectronics%2C217&sr=1-13

Also, you might consider Point-to-Point wireless AP:

https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-LocoM5-Complete-Pre-Configured-Nanostation/dp/B06XKPCGH8/ref=sr_1_8?crid=P0COUZSOO0I3&dchild=1&keywords=point+to+point+wireless+bridge+outdoor&qid=1619024481&sprefix=point+to+p%2Caps%2C228&sr=8-8

[mrkubota]

I just use a couple of powerline adapters to run ethernet out to our tackroom/office. Works great.

https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-AV600-Powerline-Ethernet-Adapter/dp/B00AWRUICG/ref=sr_1_3?crid=1331L7QBZYOK0&dchild=1&keywords=ethernet+powerline+adapter&qid=1619026045&sprefix=ethernet+power%2Caps%2C233&sr=8-3