Intel or AMD

[Phil3]

Am building a computer to replace my 9 year old previously home built desktop. Question between these two processors. Intel i5-11600k vs AMD 5600X. My use is Internet, limited 4k video editing, Microsoft Office, e-mail, SketchUp 3D (simple stuff). No gaming at all. I do not overclock. The way I see it is as follows:

Intel i5-11600K: Available. Cheaper than AMD, especially now with price gouging on AMD. Comes with integrated graphics, which may be all I need?, fast enough, though a tad slower overall vs 5600X. No cooler. Can run quite hot.

AMD 5600X: Slightly faster than Intel, comes with integrated cooler, runs cool, but while MSRP is $299, always selling for more like $370, and often not available.

Question really is, will the new Intel graphics (UHD 750) sufficient for my needs? I don't know. And if a graphics card is available, is one even available, and at what cost? The Intel needs a cooler, but a single fan Noctura should be OK (I hope). I wish to avoid liquid cooling. I've yet to look into motherboard costs.

Existing CPU is an Intel i5-2500k. I have not tried it with 4l video editing, but would not expect it to fare well.

Thanks.

Phil

[Jwalt]

You'd be fine with a Ryzen 5 2600. 190 bucks-ish. Or ryzen 5 2600x for 220. Runs in the same motherboards (AM4) as the newer stuff. You'll be prepped to uprgrade down the line if you want.

You just don't have a lot of demanding stuff. The think that will kill you right now is the GPU.

Edited to add:

Looking at GPU prices and knowing you want to do some 4k editing....I'd wait or (hate saying this) maybe even buy pre-built.

[Trail Teams]

I recommend checking out https://www.pugetsystems.com/

They have a bunch of articles and recommendations. You can even contact one of their agents, even if you don't buy from them (because they are expensive).
But I ended up buying one of their Ryzen workstations.
I was in a similar situation as you and I needed a reliable computer for 4K editing, CAD and 3D stuff, a bit of photoshop and MS office programs.

[EWastigmatism]

AMD seems to be pulling away from Intel. Their clock times are better, they work with better graphics, and cost less.

[OCEquestrian]

AMD....!!!

[incredablehefey]

Amd is better value at most price points, I love building my own computers but unless something changes with the supply shortages I will likely be buying a pre build/ custom.

[C.G.]

I've always used Intel, but right now the AMD specs look better, not sure about the motherboard selection, however. If I were to build now I would probably go AMD. Fortunately, I don't need to upgrade yet.

[Uncivil Engineer]

With gpu available nearly impossible prebuilt is your only choice. I've been sitting in parts for three weeks looking for any decent gpu at near MSRP. It's impossible. I'm watching all the inventory trackers and about 20 times a day I get something in a cart only to lose it before checking out.

Going with a custom builder expect weeks if not months delay. I have never used them but i have seen these guys review well. https://buildredux.com/ the parts cost + flat rate build fee doesn't look too bad.

You might get something faster from the big guys like Dell.

[Preston-CLB]

I recommend checking out https://www.pugetsystems.com/

They have a bunch of articles and recommendations. You can even contact one of their agents, even if you don't buy from them (because they are expensive).
But I ended up buying one of their Ryzen workstations.
I was in a similar situation as you and I needed a reliable computer for 4K editing, CAD and 3D stuff, a bit of photoshop and MS office programs.

I'll second Puget Systems. I have one of their workstations and a laptop (no longer available) that are 10 and 9 years old respectively. Yes, they were expensive than, as now, but after years of use they both still run nicely, and quietly.

Some things not mentioned above are:

• When you call, you get a real person and no goofy phone tree menus.

• Their tech support is in-house; not only for hardware issues, but for Windows, as well.

• Their craftsmanship is top drawer, and they have extensive QC before your machine goes out the door.

When it's time, I will buy from them again.
_P

[Cowboy T]

I just recently built some systems, two of them AMD Ryzen 3200G-based, and one Intel Core i3-10100-based. Both are quad-core CPU's, and both are damned fast. All of them run Debian GNU/Linux.

For your stated applications, that's actually somewhat beyond what you need, and the Ryzen is in fact a little bit faster than the i3-10100, both the main processor and the GPU. But again, either will handily do what you need. If you'd like a bit of extra future-proofing, go for the Ryzen, because those chips support PCIe 4.0 already, and thus so do the motherboards. Not saying PCIe 3.0 is slow, but 4.0 gives even more bandwidth for the future...for similar money.

The more important issue is going to be any bottlenecks getting to either of those CPU's. That's why I would recommend at least 32GB of DRAM, 1TB of SSD storage (NVMe, if you can swing it), and a good motherboard. My boxes have a minimum of 64GB DRAM, for what I do. What can I say--I believe in big RAM.

[MrFancyPants]

AMD seems to be pulling away from Intel. Their clock times are better, they work with better graphics, and cost less.

Yes, however good luck ever finding one in stock. Intel, no problem with availability. AMD is losing a lot of sales to Intel simply because of lack of supply. Shame.

[Misterclick]

[C.G.]

Yes, however good luck ever finding one in stock. Intel, no problem with availability. AMD is losing a lot of sales to Intel simply because of lack of supply. Shame.

That has been a problem with AMD they just don't produce enough to match demand.

[jorgi23]

With Covid and Bitcoins, building a system right now, hate to even think about it.

I have built both, AMD is my choice, just a better value for your money.

[fmxmyway]

Id do AMD too but I can get the intel for cheaper oddly enough. Either way they are both going to be pretty good so id just do whatever is cheaper.