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  • Cowboy T
    Calguns Addict
    • Mar 2010
    • 5710

    Just refurbished an AMD Phenom quad-core box from about 2012. Old school!

    This thing is, if memory serves, vintage 2012 or thereabouts. It has USB 2.0 on the mobo with one PCI-E slot and two PCI slots. The CPU is an AMD Phenom quad-core running at 3.2 GHz. Way back, eh? :-) This is a box I had built back then to use as a virtualization test-bed, and it ended up running as a server for the last 7 years. It had two HDD's in it, both platters. The 1.5TB disk drive, the boot drive, had failed. I was backing up the data partitions to a second 1.0TB disk drive, which is still working fine.

    After building a new box to assume this one's former duties, I got to thinking...my neighbors, an older couple in their 70's, were thinking about upgrading from their Windows XP computer. Yes, Windows XP! They're still using dial-up! I know, right? But it's worked for them for all this time. They basically surf the Web, check email, and do the occasional office productivity stuff. That's it. No video streaming, nothing taxing.

    So, I got to thinking, hmmm...maybe if I refurbish this older computer, I could give it to them. It's considerably better than what they've got now. The mobo, CPU, and DRAM are still working great. Furthermore, for most people, a quad-core 64-bit Phenom running at 3.2 GHz will be enough CPU oomph for what they do, assuming enough DRAM is present.

    So, I took the whole thing apart and got everything good 'n' clean. Replaced one of the case fans that was starting to go out. CPU fan's still just fine.

    I had some DDR3 lying around, a couple of 8GB sticks. The mobo, a Biostar model, has two DDR3 slots; it's a mini-ATX form factor. So, I filled both slots to give the computer 16GB of DRAM. This is, I believe, the max DRAM officially supported for this motherboard. For most people doing Web, email, and office productivity, 8GB is enough, and 16GB gives plenty of breathing space.

    Also installed an SSD drive. The computer, being from 2012, uses SATA2, which is 3Gbits/sec, or 384 MBytes/sec. Yes, SATA3's faster, but that's still going to be waaaay faster than the platters. Popped a spare 256GB SATA SSD in it. Installed Debian GNU/Linux 10 ("Buster") because it's easy to use and easy to upgrade. Used the Xfce desktop to keep things nice 'n' simple.

    For the final touch, I added a PCIe USB 3.0 card. That ought to do it.

    Tried it out. Yep, the 256GB SSD is much, much faster than the platters were. This old quad-core Phenom box actually feels snappy! I'm now doing a burn-in test of the CPU and will also run memtest86 on it to make sure everything's in proper working order. If it is, then my neighbors will have a shiny "new" computer!

    Total cost for this refurb: about $75.
    Last edited by Cowboy T; 02-24-2021, 10:30 PM.
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    sonofeugene
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 4348

    Good on you for building the computer for an older couple. I'm sure they will appreciate it.
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    • #3
      Harry Ono
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2018
      • 965

      This thing is, if memory serves, vintage 2012 or thereabouts. It has USB 2.0 on the mobo with one PCI-E slot and two PCI slots. The CPU is an AMD Phenom quad-core running at 3.2 GHz. Way back, eh? :-) This is a box I had built back then to use as a virtualization test-bed, and it ended up running as a server for the last 7 years. It had two HDD's in it, both platters. The 1.5TB disk drive, the boot drive, had failed. I was backing up the data partitions to a second 1.0TB disk drive, which is still working fine.

      After building a new box to assume this one's former duties, I got to thinking...my neighbors, an older couple in their 70's, were thinking about upgrading from their Windows XP computer. Yes, Windows XP! They're still using dial-up! I know, right? But it's worked for them for all this time. They basically surf the Web, check email, and do the occasional office productivity stuff. That's it. No video streaming, nothing taxing.

      Vintage would be inline with AMD 286 or their Intel 386 Clone running a DOS 2-4x . 2012 would hardly be considered Vintage.

      Last edited by Harry Ono; 02-25-2021, 12:27 AM.

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        Cowboy T
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2010
        • 5710

        Yeah, that can depend on your personal view. I do remember the AMD 386-40 from back in the day. But 9 years old is now also pretty "old" when it comes to CPU's, given what's been released.
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        • #5
          LTC-J
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 1056

          Nice repurpose... not exactly what I'd call really vintage.

          I recently did a file server using a pair of Opterons 2374E(2008 quad cores).

          I'm ancient school; 8088 IBM PC... my oldest processor in the box is a Cytrix

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          • #6
            Dan_Eastvale
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Apr 2013
            • 10037

            Cheap enough to build a low end state of the art PC.

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            • #7
              Cowboy T
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2010
              • 5710

              Originally posted by Dan_Eastvale
              Cheap enough to build a low end state of the art PC.
              You can do that for $75? Please elaborate.
              "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
              F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
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              http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
              http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
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              • #8
                newshooter650
                Member
                • Jun 2020
                • 421

                I had a Phenom X4 PC back in the mid to late 2000s. That was a good rig back in the XP / Vista days. That was the first true consumer quad core on the market.

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                • #9
                  Nvberinger
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2018
                  • 729

                  Originally posted by Cowboy T
                  You can do that for $75? Please elaborate.
                  Electronic flea markets. Lots of motherboards, ram, cases, drives, cables. Barebone and laptops. All you need some tools and know how.

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                  • #10
                    Nvberinger
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2018
                    • 729

                    Vintage belongs in a museum
                    Legacy still works
                    Modern recent purchase, will be legacy in 2 to 4 years

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                    • #11
                      the86d
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 9587

                      Originally posted by Nvberinger
                      Vintage belongs in a museum
                      Legacy still works
                      Modern recent purchase, will be legacy in 2 to 4 years
                      My MSI Phenom board lasted 10-12 years...
                      I did upgrade the x4 to an x6 toward the end, but if the OP has a board that supports the AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Processor, Black Edition, I'll donate to the Nutn' Fancy project here. Best/Fastest proc. my board supported...

                      I've never OC'd it, but I got the x6 used, so it might have been OC'd before I owned it, but it was stable the 2-4 years I had it before the board died.

                      I think just the board went bad, but I upgraded to an i7.

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                      • #12
                        ibanezfoo
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 11674

                        Originally posted by Harry Ono
                        Vintage would be inline with AMD 286 or their Intel 386 Clone running a DOS 2-4x . 2012 would hardly be considered Vintage.

                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S3fm9OAlZ8
                        Thats what I was thinking. My i7 laptop is from 2012. My kids desktop he uses to play games and do homework is from 2011 (its a "recycled" old Boxx workstation I took from work). All I did was remove the Quadro 4000 and put a GTX1060 in it. My main workstation isn't much better, 4770 with a 980Ti. All of these run whatever we need just fine, from CAD apps to new games.
                        vindicta inducit ad salutem?

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                          Cowboy T
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 5710

                          Originally posted by Nvberinger
                          Electronic flea markets. Lots of motherboards, ram, cases, drives, cables. Barebone and laptops. All you need some tools and know how.
                          State of the art at the moment (late 2020 to early 2021) would be the AMD Ryzen chips or an Intel Core Gen-10/11, with DDR4 DRAM, USB 3.1/3.2, M.2 NVMe storage of at least 1TB, PCIe 3.0 minimum and preferably PCIe 4.0 (supported by the Ryzens), and the latest video chipsets. If you can do that for even close to $75, then color me very impressed, indeed, and I would like to PM you for some sources, as I'm building some new computers.

                          Originally posted by ibanezfoo
                          Thats what I was thinking. My i7 laptop is from 2012. My kids desktop he uses to play games and do homework is from 2011 (its a "recycled" old Boxx workstation I took from work). All I did was remove the Quadro 4000 and put a GTX1060 in it. My main workstation isn't much better, 4770 with a 980Ti. All of these run whatever we need just fine, from CAD apps to new games.
                          Whether one chooses to use the word "vintage" or "legacy" can be pretty subjective. If one prefers to use the word "legacy", no problem in my mind. The larger point is that a nearly 10-year-old computer, whose actual technology is just over 10 years old, can be refreshed to provide pretty good performance for what most people use a computer for. This goes to show that the CPU normally isn't the bottleneck for most general-purpose tasks, so people who buy a high-dollar, monster CPU, but don't take care of the I/O, are usually leaving performance on the table.

                          I just saw this happen at our local Micro Center. There was a woman buying components that her late-teenage son had spec'ed for her new computer. Son (who was home) was going to do the build with what Momma bought. Momma had her boyfriend with her. We all got to talking. She was going to use this computer for general office productivity-type stuff and Web-surfing, the typical user situation. So, she showed me her son's shopping list. He had spec'ed a $350 CPU for this and a hot-stuff gamer motherboard. He'd also spec'ed 16GB DRAM and a large platter-based hard disk drive. I'd just built a couple of Ryzen 3200G-based boxes and was building an Intel Core 3 (10100)-based system. So, I'd asked if I could possibly suggest a few mods to this shopping list, given her intended usage. I was going to save her about $250 on the CPU and speed up her I/O by replacing the platter disk drive with a good SSD. You know, balance the system out a lot better, and save her maybe $200 in the process overall. She seemed very afraid of deviating from her son's list. Boyfriend gave me a look saying, "yeah, bro, I know, and you're right, but that's just kinda how it is." So, I of course left it alone. It is, after all, her money.

                          She would've been just as well off with this nearly 10-year-old, 16GB DRAM, SSD-ifyed, AMD Phenom system that I just refurbished!

                          Personally, I think the teenage son was really spec'ing out a gamer machine for himself and thinking a lot less about his Momma.
                          "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
                          F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
                          http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
                          http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
                          http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
                          ----------------------------------------------------
                          To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism.

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