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  • 2shotjoe
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    • Feb 2011
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    Java a dead language now?

    I wrote one program to stop my work computer from locking out every 15 minutes. Been years, already forgotten everything.

    It is worth brushing up on it again?

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    Cowboy T
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    • Mar 2010
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    Yep. Smartphones are one big reason; they run plenty of Java. Certain large applications such as SIEM products also have a lot of Java components in them. Java is in a lot of places.
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    • #3
      tomrkba
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2016
      • 1513

      Not even close. Google top programming languages 2020. This is interesting: https://www.zdnet.com/article/which-...hat-even-mean/

      It's gotten YUGE. It's extremely popular. It has a huge number of libraries available. You can pretty much do anything with it. Corporations worldwide use it.

      Personally, I hate it. It's extremely verbose and goofy. But, it is so useful that even I have had to acquiesce and start using it again. It works great for software testing automation.
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      • #4
        SnipTheDog
        Junior Member
        • Mar 2016
        • 58

        Even Cobol is still around. Java will be here for a long time.

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        • #5
          Uncivil Engineer
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2016
          • 1101

          Originally posted by tomrkba
          Not even close. Google top programming languages 2020. This is interesting: https://www.zdnet.com/article/which-...hat-even-mean/

          It's gotten YUGE. It's extremely popular. It has a huge number of libraries available. You can pretty much do anything with it. Corporations worldwide use it.

          Personally, I hate it. It's extremely verbose and goofy. But, it is so useful that even I have had to acquiesce and start using it again. It works great for software testing automation.
          As with all languages it really depends on what you want to do. If you want to write Android phone apps or backed corporate code then sure have works. But the days that Java was going to take over the world are gone. That ship sailed when Oracle bought sun for pennies on the dollar.

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          • #6
            Robotron2k84
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2017
            • 2013

            It all depends on the outcome of Google v. Oracle.

            If Oracle wins, Java will be deader than a fjord-pining parrot. No one will want to touch EE, and moves to OpenJDK will also be threatened by copyright of the API.

            Should Google win, Perl 7 will still rule the server space, and once PinePhone gets serious, and supplants Android, Java will be history. Everyone will have to re-learn TCL.

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            • #7
              ibanezfoo
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              • Apr 2007
              • 11892

              God I hope so. I have a big No Java! poster in my office.

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              • #8
                ocabj
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                • Oct 2005
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                Most people don't understand Java beyond Java apps that run on their individual devices. In that context, yes, Java is kind of bad. Having to constantly update Java JDK/SDK on a local machine gets annoying, especially when the container isn't all that optimal to begin with.

                Java code backs a lot of server applications on the web. Servlets via Apache Tomcat is pretty significant for enterprise level applications. People don't see Java in this context because it's all behind the scenes.

                Python is becoming the most popular language because it's easy to learn development processes using this language. The development environment is relatively easy to stage and can be used to make simple scripts to decently sized applications.

                The one application that I use heavily that is Java based is the Elastic stack (Elasticsearch, Logstash, *beats).

                Java won't be dead any time soon. It is actually a pretty robust language and is quite relevant in the age of web apps.

                Programming languages have their individual strengths and won't be 'dead' due to specific use cases. Hardly anyone one learns assembly anymore, but it is certainly relevant if you work in embedded systems, writing device drivers, or anything that would benefit from direct hardware access for optimizations.

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