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  • ABR
    Senior Member
    • May 2015
    • 1167

    Computer powering up overnight

    Purchased an upgraded and refurbished HP5750 to use as a backup to run CNC machines. 1T/4GB running XP Pro. It accepted and runs the 2006 software fine and serves it purpose.
    Shutting down from the start menu I come in the next morning and at some point it powers up overnight.
    I unplugged all the peripherals (keyboard, mouse, screen) to see if they had any influence but did not.
    The only other investigation into this was BIOS. I noticed all the power settings are "enabled" Mon-Sun and at the very bottom the time is set @00:00. I pulled that idea off the net but did not change anything at this point.
    Short of using a surge protected power strip to manually shut power off I'm not really sure what to about it.
    It's possible the computer was set up to power up automatically in it's past life. I'd rather it didn't.
    Any thoughts?
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    sonofeugene
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2013
    • 4452

    Sometimes they'll power up to updated software. Check all your settings.
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    • #3
      the86d
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2011
      • 9587

      Cable internet provider w/no firewall?

      WAKE ON LAN...

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      • #4
        vino68
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2016
        • 1622

        Yes, either Wake on LAN, settings and a job or service scheduled to wake up the PC due to not shutting down but placing into hibernation. Which I hate when people or default is set to sleep when pressing the power button.

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        • #5
          ABR
          Senior Member
          • May 2015
          • 1167

          Originally posted by sonofeugene
          Sometimes they'll power up to updated software. Check all your settings.
          Originally posted by the86d
          Cable internet provider w/no firewall?

          WAKE ON LAN...
          The computer powers up every night. It is not connected to the internet only used to run the machine's software.
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          • #6
            FresnoRob
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 2133

            Originally posted by ABR
            Purchased an upgraded and refurbished HP5750 to use as a backup to run CNC machines. 1T/4GB running XP Pro. It accepted and runs the 2006 software fine and serves it purpose.
            Shutting down from the start menu I come in the next morning and at some point it powers up overnight.
            I unplugged all the peripherals (keyboard, mouse, screen) to see if they had any influence but did not.
            The only other investigation into this was BIOS. I noticed all the power settings are "enabled" Mon-Sun and at the very bottom the time is set @00:00. I pulled that idea off the net but did not change anything at this point.Short of using a surge protected power strip to manually shut power off I'm not really sure what to about it.
            It's possible the computer was set up to power up automatically in it's past life. I'd rather it didn't.
            Any thoughts?
            If you are not comfortable with messing with that setting you could test this to see if that is the issue by entering the bios change the system time to just before midnight save it then shut down. Watch it a few minutes to see if it comes on.

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            • #7
              the86d
              Calguns Addict
              • Jul 2011
              • 9587

              Originally posted by FresnoRob
              If you are not comfortable with messing with that setting you could test this to see if that is the issue by entering the bios change the system time to just before midnight save it then shut down. Watch it a few minutes to see if it comes on.
              Factory UEFI/BIOS, then make sure to shut down, not sleep or hibernate, then see if that helps?

              WOL does not have to be Internet-connected, hence the Lan portion of Wake On Lan.

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              • #8
                cyphr02
                Member
                • May 2008
                • 477

                Originally posted by ABR
                The only other investigation into this was BIOS. I noticed all the power settings are "enabled" Mon-Sun and at the very bottom the time is set @00:00. I pulled that idea off the net but did not change anything at this point.
                Any thoughts?
                What this means is that the system is configured to power on at 00:00. This is a setting HP includes in their bios for business customers, so you can set your device to power up at a certain time, like 0750 so that it can be on and waiting for you to get into the office, but more usefully, for enterprise businesses, so they can bring all devices on, lets say at 0300 on wednesdays, to have updates pushed to them.
                If you disable the power on settings, the device will not boot in the middle of the night. For confirmation of this, set the time to 15 minutes from current, then shut down the device, it will boot at the designated time.

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                • #9
                  Kokopelli
                  Veteran Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 3389

                  Windows Task Manager can be set to start or power down a computer at a particular time. I'd look at the task manager settings.
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                  • #10
                    ABR
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2015
                    • 1167

                    Thanks for all your help and suggestions brothers.
                    I went into Power options/BIOS and disabled that feature to power up at 00:00 hours M-Sun. Also, disabled the option to power up after a power failure.
                    Seemed to have worked; came in this AM and it did not power up overnight.
                    Checked to see if my CNC program was working properly and it is.

                    I can see how this feature could be helpful in a large database environment when having numerous employees firing up their PC's all at once dragging the system.

                    In the future however, I want to investigate the ability to run this software with a new Windows 10 operating system. Must be a way to install a patch or something to make it work. New software is EXPENSIVE for the CNC's. We have multiple PC's running solid state drives for the business that I love as there is virtually no boot up time and lightening fast.
                    Thanks again.
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                    • #11
                      Tango_Down
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2017
                      • 1175

                      You only need to be concerned if you unplug it before you go to bed and it's plugged back in when you wake up.

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                      • #12
                        The War Wagon
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 10294

                        Sleep tight... you worry too much.


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                        • #13
                          ABR
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2015
                          • 1167

                          Originally posted by Tango_Down
                          You only need to be concerned if you unplug it before you go to bed and it's plugged back in when you wake up.
                          Originally posted by The War Wagon
                          Sleep tight... you worry too much.


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