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  • -hanko
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 14174

    Need an I-Phone expert or 3...

    Wife and I are switching from Android to Apple phones. So, question is does an I-phone come chock-full of bloatware like the typical Android device.

    That said, if we went direct to Apple, would we see less bloatware than upgrading at T-Mo?

    Don't want a discussion as to Android v. Apple...we're both Mac-Booked, I-Padded, etc., as is most of our family. Integration appears to be perfectly seamless, more or less.

    Thank you in advance for your expertise.
    True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

    Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

    Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

    A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran
  • #2
    lazyworm
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 1641

    Apple slows down your phone for you automatically, no extra bloatware needed.

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    • #3
      NPFreedom
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 1568

      Yes. I got iphone from Apple, nothing preinstalled from Tmobile (Tmobile app and whatever they are installing nowadays). However, you might find better discounts at the tmo store.
      Visit www.npfreedom.com for discounted firearm parts and accessories

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      • #4
        therealnickb
        King- Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2011
        • 8925

        Originally posted by -hanko
        Wife and I are switching from Android to Apple phones. So, question is does an I-phone come chock-full of bloatware like the typical Android device.

        That said, if we went direct to Apple, would we see less bloatware than upgrading at T-Mo?

        Don't want a discussion as to Android v. Apple...we're both Mac-Booked, I-Padded, etc., as is most of our family. Integration appears to be perfectly seamless, more or less.

        Thank you in advance for your expertise.
        No bloatware that I’ve detected.

        If you’re already using macs, pads & other i stuff, you’ll love the transition. Use the family iCloud plan too.

        In before the86d thread crap.
        Last edited by therealnickb; 04-26-2018, 9:25 PM.

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        • #5
          -Seth
          Junior Member
          • Jul 2016
          • 44

          No bloatware comes loaded on any iPhone from any source. You can choose to "delete" (really it just hides) some of the Apple software apps, like Stocks and Weather. Get the iPhone wherever you can find the best deal. Most places will also be able to help with transferring your contacts and such.

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          • #6
            -hanko
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Jul 2002
            • 14174

            Originally posted by lazyworm
            Apple slows down your phone for you automatically, no extra bloatware needed.
            I shoulda' been ready for that.



            uch:

            I can say my transition to a Mac Book from Windoze did take a bit of time...if I do have to use a Windows app on the Mac, I just open the virtual box and the Mac turns into a pc.


            Originally posted by NPFreedom
            Yes. I got iphone from Apple, nothing preinstalled from Tmobile (Tmobile app and whatever they are installing nowadays). However, you might find better discounts at the tmo store.
            Apple direct and TMO are the same price, down to the penny. Wife is looking for a 6 and I for a 6 or maybe 7 with better camera. The only "deals" are for pre-owned phones...having worked for TMO for 7 years when we first got to Idaho, I'd definitely forget buying a "factory refurbished" phone.


            Originally posted by therealnickb
            No bloatware that I’ve detected.

            If you’re already using macs, pads & other i stuff, you’ll love the transition. Use the family iCloud plan too.

            In before the86d thread crap.
            I did a little homework a while ago...apparently apple has a no-bs policy for bs programs on new phones...Other than using Apple's "Move to IOS" app on both phones, it appears to be seamless.


            Originally posted by -Seth
            No bloatware comes loaded on any iPhone from any source. You can choose to "delete" (really it just hides) some of the Apple software apps, like Stocks and Weather. Get the iPhone wherever you can find the best deal. Most places will also be able to help with transferring your contacts and such.
            Seth, thanks. As I wrote above, no "deals" I can find. Verizon and ATT give you a free phone, a new 2-year contract, and a monthly rp charge more than TMO which covers the "free" phone.

            TMO's contract says you are obligated to remain a customer until the phone is paid for. They also separate what you pay for the phone v rp when you get the bill. You can make monthly payments depending on your credit ability...we'll just put it on AMEX and get another year's warranty added.

            Thanks for all the replies.
            True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

            Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

            Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

            A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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            • #7
              gorn5150
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 1453

              WOOT has 6 and 6s refurb phones now from $155 to $250.

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              • #8
                the86d
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2011
                • 9587

                Biggest drawback: all your cables need to be replaced (with extras you currently don't have), music/movie transfer require iTunes (in non-logical folders, randomly renamed), and you'll have to "purchase" MANY the useful apps (for higher prices than $0-to-$3).

                At least they will swap batteries "for a fee", now, when they NERF the CPUs in like ~2 years.

                Can you drop a any ringtone (even from an MP3) on an iPhruity-dev. these days, or do you have to buy them?
                Last edited by the86d; 04-28-2018, 5:07 AM.

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                • #9
                  gorn5150
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 1453

                  Originally posted by the86d
                  Biggest drawback: all your cables need to be replaced (with extras you currently don't have), music/movie transfer require iTunes (in non-logical folders, randomly renamed), and you'll have to "purchase" MANY the useful apps (for higher prices than $0-to-$3).

                  At least they will swap batteries "for a fee", now, when they NERF the CPUs in like ~2 years.

                  Can you drop a any ringtone (even from an MP3) on an iPhruity-dev. these days, or do you have to buy them?
                  iPhones come with a cable just like android phones. iTunes is not required but it has a required driver in it to make some other programs work. There are not iTune ways to do things. I hate iTunes but with the click of my mouse it uses the folders I keep my stuff in instead of the apple default. You do have to buy apps that aren't free. Apples lockdown of the device makes it pretty hard to load stolen apps like you can on android. I have never used a paid ringtone on any apple phone I have owned, including the original iPhone. I make my own.

                  If you would ever make the mistake of letting iTunes catalog your music you will then get to spend a lot of time fixing the folder nightmare it creates.

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                  • #10
                    sonofeugene
                    Veteran Member
                    • Oct 2013
                    • 4425

                    No bloatware that I've ever found. However there are apps from Apple that I never use. Most can be deleted if the bother you. Or, you can simply place them all in a folder to ignore.
                    Let us not pray to be sheltered from dangers but to be fearless when facing them. - Rabindranath Tagore

                    A mind all logic is like a knife all blade. It makes the hand bleed that uses it. - Rabindranath Tagore

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                    • #11
                      -hanko
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 14174

                      Originally posted by gorn5150
                      WOOT has 6 and 6s refurb phones now from $155 to $250.
                      Refurbished phones are not in the running...see post above.



                      Originally posted by the86d
                      Biggest drawback: all your cables need to be replaced (with extras you currently don't have), music/movie transfer require iTunes (in non-logical folders, randomly renamed), and you'll have to "purchase" MANY the useful apps (for higher prices than $0-to-$3).

                      At least they will swap batteries "for a fee", now, when they NERF the CPUs in like ~2 years.

                      Can you drop a any ringtone (even from an MP3) on an iPhruity-dev. these days, or do you have to buy them?
                      No movies or music on existing phones...on-the-road music is on memory cards as both vehicles accept them.


                      Originally posted by gorn5150
                      iPhones come with a cable just like android phones. iTunes is not required but it has a required driver in it to make some other programs work. There are not iTune ways to do things. I hate iTunes but with the click of my mouse it uses the folders I keep my stuff in instead of the apple default. You do have to buy apps that aren't free. Apples lockdown of the device makes it pretty hard to load stolen apps like you can on android. I have never used a paid ringtone on any apple phone I have owned, including the original iPhone. I make my own.

                      If you would ever make the mistake of letting iTunes catalog your music you will then get to spend a lot of time fixing the folder nightmare it creates.
                      Tks for the iTunes heads-up.


                      Originally posted by sonofeugene
                      No bloatware that I've ever found. However there are apps from Apple that I never use. Most can be deleted if the bother you. Or, you can simply place them all in a folder to ignore.
                      Once again, thanks for the knowledge.
                      True wealth is time. Time to enjoy life.

                      Life's journey is not to arrive safely in a well preserved body, but rather to slide in sideways, totally worn out, shouting "holy schit...what a ride"!!

                      Heaven goes by favor. If it went by merit, you would stay out and your dog would go in. Mark Twain

                      A man's soul can be judged by the way he treats his dog. Charles Doran

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                      • #12
                        Switchbarrel
                        Member
                        • Jun 2009
                        • 483

                        Originally posted by -hanko

                        Seth, thanks. As I wrote above, no "deals" I can find. Verizon and ATT give you a free phone, a new 2-year contract, and a monthly rp charge more than TMO which covers the "free" phone.

                        TMO's contract says you are obligated to remain a customer until the phone is paid for. They also separate what you pay for the phone v rp when you get the bill. You can make monthly payments depending on your credit ability...we'll just put it on AMEX and get another year's warranty added.

                        Thanks for all the replies.
                        This isn’t really about the phone...

                        Based on your location info above, like you, I have homes in Tracy & Boise.

                        People I work with that have every carrier but Verizon, all mention no service & dropped calls (in the Bay Area!). I say I have Verizon & have very, very little issue with that. Then they say how expensive Verizon is & I point out that they are paying for service and not getting it. Where’s the value in that? I don’t wanna be between Reno & Winnemucca and not have service. Or worse yet, that long stretch of desolation between Winnemucca and Caldwell.

                        I’m not a Verizon fanboy by any means but service is the most important consideration for me. We do get a discount through work which helps.

                        -Rick
                        Unbiased AR15, Barnard (sold ), BAT, Borden, Browning, Kelbly, Marsh, Nesika Bay, Remington, Ruger, Savage, Ultralight Arms owner. I like 'em all.

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                        • #13
                          xxINKxx
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 4289

                          Originally posted by Switchbarrel
                          This isn’t really about the phone...

                          Based on your location info above, like you, I have homes in Tracy & Boise.

                          People I work with that have every carrier but Verizon, all mention no service & dropped calls (in the Bay Area!). I say I have Verizon & have very, very little issue with that. Then they say how expensive Verizon is & I point out that they are paying for service and not getting it. Where’s the value in that? I don’t wanna be between Reno & Winnemucca and not have service. Or worse yet, that long stretch of desolation between Winnemucca and Caldwell.

                          I’m not a Verizon fanboy by any means but service is the most important consideration for me. We do get a discount through work which helps.

                          -Rick
                          When I moved from OC to AZ, I had sprint. I would frequent drive back and forth. Sprint only worked up to about 29 palms and was junk for the rest of the trip with zero service, zero text capabilities etc.

                          Verizon is the only service that works the entire trip and works everywhere in arizona that I've been to. I dont know anyone who doesn't have verizon.
                          "If a law is unjust, a man is not only right to disobey it, he is obligated to do so." - Thomas Jefferson

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                          • #14
                            lordmorgul
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Jul 2016
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