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  • #16
    Darryl Licht
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    • Dec 2012
    • 2259

    Originally posted by Albs
    ...I just see a lot of FUD here, that is all.
    As do I!

    Especially with respect to the PSU suggestions.

    Again, more watts isn't better. It is just overkill!

    Compute your systems requirements and add 10-20% for overhead and any future additions. Any more than that is just wasted. Might as well flush $ down the drain!
    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
    --Thomas Jefferson
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. --Groucho Marx

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    • #17
      Dragunov
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 1953

      Q: How many gaming system builders does it take to change a light bulb?

      A: Ten. One to screw in the bulb, and nine others to say they could've done it better.

      You guys sound like a bunch of guitar players, measuring the size of your "Richards".

      WTF?!? Really people? I've been building systems since the late '70's. Guy seems to know what he's doing, How 'bout a "Kudos"?

      My last gaming build? Last year.

      Specs?

      Core2Duo Quad4, Q6700 2.66Ghz.
      Nvidia 8600GT
      8gb/Ram.
      2 7200rpm, 500gb HDD.
      Blue Ray
      24" AOC Monitor, I bought for $99 I bought from Wal Mart two years ago.

      What do I play?

      Sims 2
      Game of thrones
      Beyond Good and Evil
      Halo
      Half life.
      Freespace 2

      My system is more than adequate for what I play.

      Cut the guy some slack.

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      • #18
        Nguyen
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 3000

        Originally posted by Dragunov
        Q: How many gaming system builders does it take to change a light bulb?

        A: Ten. One to screw in the bulb, and nine others to say they could've done it better.

        You guys sound like a bunch of guitar players, measuring the size of your "Richards".

        WTF?!? Really people? I've been building systems since the late '70's. Guy seems to know what he's doing, How 'bout a "Kudos"?

        My last gaming build? Last year.

        Specs?

        Core2Duo Quad4, Q6700 2.66Ghz.
        Nvidia 8600GT
        8gb/Ram.
        2 7200rpm, 500gb HDD.
        Blue Ray
        24" AOC Monitor, I bought for $99 I bought from Wal Mart two years ago.

        What do I play?

        Sims 2
        Game of thrones
        Beyond Good and Evil
        Halo
        Half life.
        Freespace 2

        My system is more than adequate for what I play.

        Cut the guy some slack.
        Pretty good specs... if you want to hit 20 fps on BF1. Nice if your monitor max out at 20 hz.


        "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
        - Dianne Feinstein

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        • #19
          Rorge Retson
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2012
          • 2712

          Get as much as you can. My strategy is as soon as something new comes out, get the new #2 (the previous #1). This goes for CPUs, video cards, SSDs, HDDs, etc. as those prices usually drop pretty quickly.

          But, if money was truly no object, I would get the best in each category.

          Did you guys see that the OP has not built a computer for 10 years? What if this new build needs to last him another 10 - should he scrimp and save? Uh, no way, Jose.

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          • #20
            junior40er
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2013
            • 3315

            Get the best now I'd next build won't be for another time years. Today's high end video card will barely be any good on new games in 5 years.
            Visit my Channel "Steel On Target" on YouTube and subscribe. I post gun videos reg regularly.

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            • #21
              E92335i
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 2937

              Nice pick and great build OP.

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              • #22
                Darryl Licht
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Dec 2012
                • 2259

                Originally posted by Dragunov
                Q: How many gaming system builders does it take to change a light bulb?

                A: Ten. One to screw in the bulb, and nine others to say they could've done it better.

                You guys sound like a bunch of guitar players, measuring the size of your "Richards".

                WTF?!? Really people? I've been building systems since the late '70's. Guy seems to know what he's doing, How 'bout a "Kudos"?

                My last gaming build? Last year.

                Specs?

                Core2Duo Quad4, Q6700 2.66Ghz.
                Nvidia 8600GT
                8gb/Ram.
                2 7200rpm, 500gb HDD.
                Blue Ray
                24" AOC Monitor, I bought for $99 I bought from Wal Mart two years ago.

                What do I play?

                Sims 2
                Game of thrones
                Beyond Good and Evil
                Halo
                Half life.
                Freespace 2

                My system is more than adequate for what I play.

                Cut the guy some slack.
                You cant be serious...

                You built this last year???

                Sounds like a build from 07-08!

                "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
                --Thomas Jefferson
                Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. --Groucho Marx

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                • #23
                  Dragunov
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 1953

                  Originally posted by Darryl Licht
                  You cant be serious...

                  You built this last year???

                  Sounds like a build from 07-08!

                  Yes! Most of the games I like are from that time period, and YES, all from used parts. Cost me $0, and will play anything I like to play at high rez. If I want to play games with far better graphics, I do have a Playstation 4.

                  Streams video, and everything else I need. I DO have a laptop with much better specs. i5 Ivy Bridge Processor/16gb/Ram,1TB/7200rpmHDD. What can't be done on the "gaming" machine (so far, haven't run into that problem), can be done on that.

                  I paid $0 for that too.

                  All running on Win7 Pro.

                  BF 1? No interest in playing it. It plays all my favorite games, without a hitch, and smooth as glass.

                  Personally, I think the OP is just building a system for his own, personal needs.

                  I've been through the "latest/greatest" phase, got the tee shirt.

                  Now, I just build what is useful to me. I can normally do this for under $100. I can.t see spending $200+ for a video card, $300+ for a processor, when I don't need it.

                  Now that I think about it, I built it in April, 2015.
                  Last edited by Dragunov; 11-06-2016, 2:07 PM.

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                  • #24
                    Darryl Licht
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 2259

                    Originally posted by Dragunov
                    Yes! Most of the games I like are from that time period, and YES, all from used parts. Cost me $0, and will play anything I like to play at high rez. If I want to play games with far better graphics, I do have a Playstation 4.

                    Streams video, and everything else I need. I DO have a laptop with much better specs. i5 Ivy Bridge Processor/16gb/Ram,1TB/7200rpmHDD. What can't be done on the "gaming" machine (so far, haven't run into that problem), can be done on that.

                    I paid $0 for that too.

                    All running on Win7 Pro.

                    BF 1? No interest in playing it. It plays all my favorite games, without a hitch, and smooth as glass.

                    Personally, I think the OP is just building a system for his own, personal needs.

                    I've been through the "latest/greatest" phase, got the tee shirt.

                    Now, I just build what is useful to me. I can normally do this for under $100. I can.t see spending $200+ for a video card, $300+ for a processor, when I don't need it.

                    Now that I think about it, I built it in April, 2015.
                    OK... from used 7-8 year old parts. Now it makes sense.

                    My home "server" is 7+ years old and similarly configured.
                    "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
                    --Thomas Jefferson
                    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. --Groucho Marx

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                    • #25
                      Dragunov
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1953

                      Originally posted by Darryl Licht
                      OK... from used 7-8 year old parts. Now it makes sense.

                      My home "server" is 7+ years old and similarly configured.
                      It does what I want it to do. Most of the parts are old, but most have very little use. HDD's are two years old, Ram is a year old Blue Ray is two years. Computer is 6 years old. Hard telling how old the video card is, but it works well.

                      Maybe it's the same for the OP, It suits all his computer needs. Mine does, and does it well. Also, my software is set up properly. Makes things work well, and makes life easier.

                      My point was that a few here are picking his choice of components apart. They probably fit his needs, and picking it apart isn't necessary. I say.... GOOD JOB! Enjoy!

                      I posted mine so Y'all can pick THAT apart. I don't care.

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                      • #26
                        Grakken
                        Senior Member
                        • Jun 2006
                        • 1095

                        Add:

                        Good Thermal Paste
                        Unless you are going to overclock, stick with air cooled.
                        Win 10 PRO.
                        dump the mechanical drives and get (2) 500GB SSD'.s
                        Why full tower? thing is a beast. Look at a phantek mid-tower. you dont have that much stuff for a full.
                        DDR4? Get 4x8GB instead of 2x16 then.
                        Get a 27" 1440P IPS screen with GSync. Good luck coosing a brand..lol With what you are getting, you are wasting your money by not stepping up to 1440P IPS.
                        NRA - Life Member

                        Guns don't kill people. People Kill people.

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                        • #27
                          Nguyen
                          Veteran Member
                          • Apr 2013
                          • 3000

                          Originally posted by Grakken
                          Get a 27" 1440P IPS screen with GSync. Good luck coosing a brand..lol With what you are getting, you are wasting your money by not stepping up to 1440P IPS.

                          IPS with Gsync?. Stupid Combo.

                          Stick with TN panel 144hz /w Gsync. You get lower refresh rates.

                          I have a 1440p monitor and i still run 1080p to achieve higher rates. Also you dont run your card as hard at lower resolution.





                          Its up to you if you can tell the difference. 99% cannot... and if you can tell, is it worth the frame rates drop?
                          Last edited by Nguyen; 11-06-2016, 6:58 PM.


                          "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
                          - Dianne Feinstein

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                          • #28
                            Darryl Licht
                            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 2259

                            Originally posted by Grakken
                            Add:

                            Good Thermal Paste
                            Unless you are going to overclock, stick with air cooled.
                            Win 10 PRO.
                            dump the mechanical drives and get (2) 500GB SSD'.s
                            Why full tower? thing is a beast. Look at a phantek mid-tower. you dont have that much stuff for a full.
                            DDR4? Get 4x8GB instead of 2x16 then.
                            Get a 27" 1440P IPS screen with GSync. Good luck coosing a brand..lol With what you are getting, you are wasting your money by not stepping up to 1440P IPS.
                            I agree on the good thermal paste (I use Arctic Silver) and using air cooled if not over clocked. But with his listed equipment choices, I'd bet that OC'ing may be in the mix! Certainly a capable system for overclocking!

                            I also agree to go Win10 Pro!

                            BUT... going to 4x8 vs 2x16 leaves no option to upgrade RAM (other than replace them all), since that mobo can go to 64GB!

                            Also full tower vs mid tower is a personal choice. Full tower also leaves more room for more fans and improved airflow in most cases!


                            FYI --- Overclocking doesn't really require liquid cooling if you fill your full tower with as many good fans as possible.

                            My 7 year old media server has run 24/7/365 since the day it was built and is overclocked significantly here are it's cpu-z specs:



                            That Q9550 is spec'd at 2.8GHz... it will run reliably at 3.6, nut I backed it down to 3.4 for longevity! It has more than proved itself for 7+ years! Good mobo, cpu, and airflow are key (IMHO)!
                            Just remember, with that airflow comes dust... I must clean mine every 3-4 months!
                            Last edited by Darryl Licht; 11-06-2016, 8:49 PM.
                            "Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed one.
                            --Thomas Jefferson
                            Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies. --Groucho Marx

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                            • #29
                              Grakken
                              Senior Member
                              • Jun 2006
                              • 1095

                              Originally posted by Nguyen
                              IPS with Gsync?. Stupid Combo.

                              Stick with TN panel 144hz /w Gsync. You get lower refresh rates.

                              I have a 1440p monitor and i still run 1080p to achieve higher rates. Also you dont run your card as hard at lower resolution.


                              Its up to you if you can tell the difference. 99% cannot... and if you can tell, is it worth the frame rates drop?
                              What part of nvidia 1080 GPU dont you get? He can run 2 monitors in Ultra Wide HD and that card will handle it @1440P (ie more than 60 FPS)

                              1440p is more demanding than 1080p? Gee, ya think?
                              Nvidia 1080 will laugh at any AAA title today at 1440P on Ultra. So will a 1070.
                              IPS Screens Vs TN panel, these days go with what you like better. IPS colors will be superior over TN. There is no argument. Gsync works and you want that if you have a Nvidia 1080 GPU. TN panel has an advantage on response time. The difference between 4 MS and 2 MS is negligible. If you are a pro 1st person shooter gamer, get a TN panel with 1MS response time. if not, and you have the bank, get an IPS+Gsync. .

                              IPS + Gsync is pricey. TN + Gsync if you are budget conscious. Thats just me.
                              NRA - Life Member

                              Guns don't kill people. People Kill people.

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                              • #30
                                Nguyen
                                Veteran Member
                                • Apr 2013
                                • 3000

                                Originally posted by Grakken
                                What part of nvidia 1080 GPU dont you get? He can run 2 monitors in Ultra Wide HD and that card will handle it @1440P (ie more than 60 FPS)

                                1440p is more demanding than 1080p? Gee, ya think?
                                Nvidia 1080 will laugh at any AAA title today at 1440P on Ultra. So will a 1070.
                                IPS Screens Vs TN panel, these days go with what you like better. IPS colors will be superior over TN. There is no argument. Gsync works and you want that if you have a Nvidia 1080 GPU. TN panel has an advantage on response time. The difference between 4 MS and 2 MS is negligible. If you are a pro 1st person shooter gamer, get a TN panel with 1MS response time. if not, and you have the bank, get an IPS+Gsync. .

                                IPS + Gsync is pricey. TN + Gsync if you are budget conscious. Thats just me.
                                First of all what i posted was an opinion, not a dick, so dont take it up the ***.

                                Second, I'm saying that he doesn't have to run 1440 when 1080 is just fine and it doesn't run his card as hard.

                                Plus you said dump mechanical drive and go SSD? Why? So he can load his porn faster? All you need is 1 SSD and a hard drive for storage.






                                I'm done here... Thanks for having me on the air.

                                BYEE!!!!!!!! ^___^

                                Last edited by Nguyen; 11-06-2016, 9:27 PM.


                                "The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. A well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the best and most natural defense of a free country."
                                - Dianne Feinstein

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