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  • deadcoyote
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2010
    • 4002

    Little help on a new PC tech folk

    My ibuypower computer is 9 years old and very sad. I am going to purchase another one, likely from I buy power again. I figured I'd upgrade my modem and router while I'm at it. Ibuypower doesn't sell modems, so here's my embarrassingly stupid question: do people still use stand alone modems and routers or are there combo devices now? Please be gentle, I am tech retarded.
    Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.
  • #2
    SonofWWIIDI
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2011
    • 21583

    There are router/modem combos available all over the place. Which one is best for your situation I couldn't say. Undoubtedly someone will be along who knows more about the tech stuff.

    I have comcast tv/internet and comes with a combo that was very easy to set up and use with my PC and iPhone. For whatever that's worth.
    Sorry, not sorry.
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    Dear autocorrect, I'm really getting tired of your shirt!

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    • #3
      Iknownot
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2007
      • 2174

      I don't like cable co routers or modems. They are pretty low quality. Get a Motorola surfboard modem and a good router. I happen to really like the netgear nighthawk series but there are several other highly rated Routers from other companies.

      A side benefit is eventually you'll be saving a bit of money a month as you won't be sending the cable co the monthly rental fee for the gear.

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      • #4
        deadcoyote
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 4002

        My company doesn't provide the gear, we bought and own our old kit and will buy this stuff too.
        Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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        • #5
          Zorba
          Banned
          • May 2014
          • 767

          I recommend D-Link, although NetGear is good stuff too. Whatever you buy, plug it into a surge suppressor.

          Oh, avoid Belkin at all cost.

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          • #6
            fishmonger
            Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 319

            Originally posted by deadcoyote
            My ibuypower computer is 9 years old and very sad. I am going to purchase another one, likely from I buy power again. I figured I'd upgrade my modem and router while I'm at it. Ibuypower doesn't sell modems, so here's my embarrassingly stupid question: do people still use stand alone modems and routers or are there combo devices now? Please be gentle, I am tech retarded.
            some cable companies still only offer modems and some will charge for a wifi router. ask the cable company first see what they will give you. if you have to rent it its best to buy your own.

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            • #7
              deadcoyote
              Veteran Member
              • Apr 2010
              • 4002

              The Cable company we use doesnt rent modems, they sell them. I appreciate the fact the are located next to a Costco, and openly advise you as the customer costco has better modems for half the price and recommend you go to costco. I just figured I'd piggyback my router/modem purchase onto my ibuypower order.
              Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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              • #8
                OutlawStar
                Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 455

                For the average person, the modem/router combos are decent, especially when you buy from a good company like linksys or netgear. Is there a reason you would like the router and modem to be separate devices?

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                • #9
                  UEDan
                  Member
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 164

                  nbsp Docsis 3 0 Cable Modem nbsp Includes nbsp Cable modem Ethernet cable 5 feet

                  Modem I use and where I bought a few from already. I don't have any issues if its some where well ventilated.
                  For a router, Linksys Router with DD-WRT:
                  Experience fast, reliable, secure and easy to use WiFi when you level up with connectivity solutions made for home, business, and enterprise from Linksys.


                  Never cared for modem/router combos.

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                  • #10
                    the86d
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2011
                    • 9587

                    Originally posted by UEDan
                    http://www.statestreetdeals.com/view-product/en/38
                    Modem I use and where I bought a few from already. I don't have any issues if its some where well ventilated.
                    For a router, Linksys Router with DD-WRT:
                    Experience fast, reliable, secure and easy to use WiFi when you level up with connectivity solutions made for home, business, and enterprise from Linksys.


                    Never cared for modem/router combos.
                    How are the "802.11N" routers with DD-WRT?

                    ALL of the "802.11G" I tried had REALLY SLOW PROCESSORS and I couldn't get even 1/2 stated bandwidth throughput through the 100mpbs WAN port due to said procs.
                    The Verizon FiOS Actiontech I put DD-WRT on had better WAN port throughput (faster proc...), but the lag in the web interface made me never really use it.

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                    • #11
                      deadcoyote
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 4002

                      The only reason I would want it to be separate devices is if it resulted in higher performance. My house is 3600 square feet and the signal gets a little janky depending on where you are in the house
                      Buying a safe and sane firework is like paying a hooker for a hug. I do not see the appeal in it.

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                      • #12
                        ExtremeX
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 7160

                        Moderm - Separate (Motorola)
                        Router - Separate (Fortigate), no junky DD-WRT flashing here. Hardware accelerated performance.
                        Wireless Infrastructure - Separate - Multiple Access Points (Ubiquiti Networks)
                        Switching with POE - Separate (HP Procurve)
                        Last edited by ExtremeX; 10-13-2016, 10:30 PM.
                        ExtremeX

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                        • #13
                          UEDan
                          Member
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 164

                          Originally posted by the86d
                          How are the "802.11N" routers with DD-WRT?

                          ALL of the "802.11G" I tried had REALLY SLOW PROCESSORS and I couldn't get even 1/2 stated bandwidth throughput through the 100mpbs WAN port due to said procs.
                          The Verizon FiOS Actiontech I put DD-WRT on had better WAN port throughput (faster proc...), but the lag in the web interface made me never really use it.
                          I'm surprised they still even sell those G routers. At home I have an older E3000 works for me. 100% stable and I'm getting all the bandwidth I'm paying for. All 50mb of it.

                          With 100mb+ connections, I have had great results with newer N routers. Stable. The GUI I'll admit is iffy at times but I like the features and options so I deal with it. Plus its its set and forget.

                          @deadcoyote you need access points with dedicated cable drops. A high end router isn't going to fix your range issue.

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                          • #14
                            ExtremeX
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 7160

                            Anyone with any network savvy could/should be buying older enterprise hardware instead of consumer gear and flashing firmware to try and get more function out of it.

                            Go get a used Fortigate, Watchguard, Palo Alto, Cisco off ebay for dirt cheap... high end quality firewall/routers that used to cost $1000-2000 can be had for $100

                            Last thing you would be worrying about is speed. My Fortigate 60C cost me less than $100 and it can actually pass gigE traffic across subnets.

                            In addition to that, you actually get a lot of features... hardware based IPSec and SSL VPN, policy based firewall, routing, multiple WAN ports, 2 factor auth... all including / free without licence or subscription...
                            ExtremeX

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                            • #15
                              ray415
                              Member
                              • Aug 2016
                              • 194

                              deadcoyote,

                              Do you have a certain price range for what you're willing to spend for the modem/router?

                              My recommendation would be to get something like this: http://tinurl.com/he5hnfx

                              It's a modem/router combo and very easy to set up. It also supports newer WiFi standards. I am not suggesting you get this exact model, but something close to this. You can call your ISP and ask them for suggestions as well. When I moved a few months ago, I brought over my old setup from my old place and planned to use that equipment but after talking to my ISP, I went with equipment that they suggested and my speeds went through the roof!

                              Yes, you can buy a modem and a router separately but when it comes to consumer equipment I always like to keep it simple. Also, The less equipment you have, the less of a mess you have on your desk - space wise and wires wise.

                              Originally posted by deadcoyote
                              My ibuypower computer is 9 years old and very sad. I am going to purchase another one, likely from I buy power again. I figured I'd upgrade my modem and router while I'm at it. Ibuypower doesn't sell modems, so here's my embarrassingly stupid question: do people still use stand alone modems and routers or are there combo devices now? Please be gentle, I am tech retarded.

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