Pokemon go with iPod touch?

[swift]

My young son is convinced there is an inexpensive ($50 or so one-time fee and no data plan) that would enable him to play Pokemon go using his wifi-only iPod. Does this exist?

If the low cost ideal he described doesn't exist, what is the lowest cost option that would allow him to play for a few months?

[fishmonger]

there shouldnt be a fee to play. he need to be able to connect to the internet and have gps. not sure the ipod has gps. it would be a little hard to use since the whole idea is to go out and walk into the world to catch pokemon. he would only be able to use it places he can sign on wifi.

[SkyHawk]

Maybe if you have a wifi to cellular hotspot that also provides GPS. Otherwise, sounds like a scam.

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[rigorkrad]

I've actually tested this. it works, sorta. i was able to collect an actual pokemon.
you need to have a hotspot or mobile hotspot to play. the iPod touch will scan the neighborhood list of wifi networks, and in a herky / jerky fashion will move your player. the ability to play depends on local wifi scanning. from what i can figure out, and no i am not going to play any further ( heh ) is you might be able to play the game walking down a street. but in a park with no near by wifi networks , it wont be playable.

municipal free wifi would be ideal.

remember. wifi scanning is used as a best guess, wifi scanning can fake your location enough to play pokemon go.

in the case of the iPhone and all other ios devices, wifi scanning is used as a best guess until the real gps network can be locked onto. after the gps network is locked on, the iphone no longer uses wifi scanning. but because the iPod does not have GPS, it uses wifi scanning full time.


in my tests i was able to walk down the street and my character would sometimes be shown walking in a circle, but as soon as i came within range of a new wifi network, the player jumped to that location, i am not talking about connecting to each of these wifi networks. i am simply stating that having the iPod send the MAC addresses of nearby wifi networks behind the scenes, can sort of make this game playable, as long as it has an internet connection.

the more dense an area is of nearby wifi networks , the more better the game play will be on an iPod touch.


wifi hotspots do not give you their GPS location , it is the database of wifi hotspots, namely google, apple, skyhook wireless and wigle.net that give you your location, and these as well as cellular networks and bluetooth can be used as the source of your location either when GPS is not available or when GPS hasn't been locked yet.

we are so used to turning on our phone and having it instantly show where we are using GPS that we forgot its technically impossible for a GPS device to lock onto 3 or 4 gps satellites in a split second.

if you really want to play pokemon go, it is recommended you get a used cellular ipad for the same price more or less as an iPod touch. but you will need a data plan -- zero to ten dollars to 25 dollars to 35 dollars to 50 dollars a month , depending on your monthly budget. a used iphone would probably cost the same as an iPod touch also, but the data plan may cost more then an ipad data plan

[rigorkrad]

Maybe if you have a wifi to cellular hotspot that also provides GPS. Otherwise, sounds like a scam.

https://www.google.com/search?num=20...k1.HdBg_TiYMqc

wifi hotspots do not send you GPS coordinates. what happens is the client , without the user noticing, scans the wifi neighborhood and sends the list off to crowd sourced wifi databases owned by apple , google, WiGLE and Skyhook Wireless, and they send back your most likely probable location.

with AGPS this is used as a temporary place holder until the real GPS receiver has had time to work

with the iPod touch and computers and other devices that lack GPS radios, this location is used semi permanently.

our phones are constantly updating these databases.

[swift]

Thanks for your help. Based on Rigorkrad's comments, I downloaded pokemon go and my son was happy that the game mostly worked as he walked down the street. I didn't realize that he wouldn't need to login to each wifi network to play.

Thanks, everyone, for your help.

[M1NM]

municipal free wifi would be ideal.

You just don't grasp the concept that there is NOTHING FREE. It's YOUR money that .gov uses to provide "free" stuff. Free Freway towing in LA County is paid for by a 1/2% sales tax paid on everything you buy. Free electronics disposal is paid for when you buy any electronic item $8 for a TV or PC monitor. Free oil disposal - nope included in the price. Newest scam an extra $1 on every car battery to pay for clean-up that the manufacturer should be paying for.

[SkyHawk]

wifi hotspots do not send you GPS coordinates. what happens is the client , without the user noticing, scans the wifi neighborhood and sends the list off to crowd sourced wifi databases owned by apple , google, WiGLE and Skyhook Wireless, and they send back your most likely probable location.

with AGPS this is used as a temporary place holder until the real GPS receiver has had time to work

with the iPod touch and computers and other devices that lack GPS radios, this location is used semi permanently.

our phones are constantly updating these databases.

It was a hypothetical. I am fully aware of wifi geolocation databases and their limitations.

I use portable devices that provide WAAS GPS coordinates to my iPads via bluetooth with 300hz update speed (5 times per second). WAAS provides accuracy of less than 3 meters 95% of the time. Good enough to shoot instrument approaches. Garmin GDL39 for instance, is my main unit for this. A DUAL brand bluetooth GPS (non-WAAS) is less than $100. I often use these at the same time as I use a Wifi hotspot.

I thought perhaps someone had by now made a Wifi/Cell hotspot that also incorporated such GPS. A simple combination of existing, inexpensive technologies that many people already use in combination. You seem sure that they have not. I wont bother to confirm, but it sounds like a viable product. You could get busy making one and cash out. You're welcome.