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  • sa champion
    Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 386

    7 vs 10 on PC

    Current status..
    Wife has a windows netbook with 1G ram which is pretty slow.
    No experience with windows 8 or 10


    Found these two desktop relatively cheap.
    one is Dell Optiplex 745 with the following specs:

    Intel Pentium D Processor @ 3.4 GHz)
    4 GB DDR2 Memory
    320 GB Hard Drive
    CD-RW/DVD-ROM Optical Drive

    Windows 7 Professional
    Office 2013 Professional Plus
    $75 or $60 without warranty

    the other is Dell Optiplex GX620
    Intel Pentium 4 with Hyper-Threading Processor @ 3 GHz)
    2 GB DDR2 Memory
    80 GB Hard Drive
    CD/DVD-ROM Optical Drive

    Windows 10 Enterprise
    Office 2013 Pro Plus
    $50 or $40 without warranty

    The OS and office are NOT trial versions.
    Thanks.
  • #2
    pluke the 2
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 1926

    way better off w/ 7

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    • #3
      stix213
      AKA: Joe Censored
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Apr 2009
      • 18998

      Microsoft is currently giving away free upgrades to Windows 10 for Windows 7 & 8 users, just FYI.

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      • #4
        NYT
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2011
        • 3811

        why in the world would you just not buy a new computer? both those machines suffer from power supply failures and both are far past end of life.

        have you looked into a chromebook or other ultra cheap laptop?

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        • #5
          sa champion
          Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 386

          examples of ultra cheap?

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          • #6
            NYT
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Apr 2011
            • 3811

            Originally posted by sa champion
            examples of ultra cheap?
            http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Chro...4AAOSwZjJU2lrT $190

            http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-11-6-In...cAAOSwqu9VTg06 $130

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            • #7
              AreWeFree
              Veteran Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 4558

              Chromebooks are junk, unless you're specifically looking for a limited use, non-windows machine.

              OP, the computers you described are horrible... there are tons of deals out there for inexpensive new or refurb systems, $200 - $400 is normal, and you'll be much better off and happier for the years you'll use it.

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              • #8
                NYT
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2011
                • 3811

                Originally posted by AreWeFree
                Chromebooks are junk, unless you're specifically looking for a limited use, non-windows machine.

                OP, the computers you described are horrible... there are tons of deals out there for inexpensive new or refurb systems, $200 - $400 is normal, and you'll be much better off and happier for the years you'll use it.
                try not to talk about things you know nothing about.

                stating chromebooks are junk and then following it up with "unless" is idiotic.

                the vast majority of computer users use basic office programs, email and internet tools. all of these do not need a windows based machine. if the op uses office, he can subscribe to office 365 for a yearly fee or get free office from google.

                the op isnt going to be a hardcore gamer or windows application user if he is looking at computers that are already 10 years old.

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                • #9
                  AreWeFree
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 4558

                  Originally posted by NYT
                  try not to talk about things you know nothing about.

                  stating chromebooks are junk and then following it up with "unless" is idiotic.

                  the vast majority of computer users use basic office programs, email and internet tools. all of these do not need a windows based machine. if the op uses office, he can subscribe to office 365 for a yearly fee or get free office from google.

                  the op isnt going to be a hardcore gamer or windows application user if he is looking at computers that are already 10 years old.
                  Suggesting a chrome book is idiotic. Did they ever add capability to run android apps or are you still restricted to chrome apps?

                  Why don't you tell the OP how great it is to replace his crappy netbook running windows with, guess what, a crappy netbook running chrome os. It's the equivalent of an 11" phone with a keyboard, except that my phone has more storage, higher resolution, and built in WAN.

                  Enlighten me on how a chrome book is all the computer one will ever need, just perfect for... web browsing... You at least could have suggested an android tablet where there's better app support, but you're hung up on an enterprise netbook.

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                  • #10
                    tradecraft
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 4630

                    I used the new Chromebook Flip for a few weeks....it suffers from some hardware issues so I had to return it. Such a pity since the form factor is AMAZING (sub 2lb convertible).

                    OP, if your wife somehow lived with 1GB of RAM this whole time, I don't think she'll care what you buy her. The machines you listed would drive me insane.
                    Last edited by tradecraft; 01-09-2016, 1:16 AM.
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                    • #11
                      AreWeFree
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 4558

                      checked a few deal sites, here's an inexpensive laptop with nice specs, unfortunately win10: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B011KFQASE/...69JK4H2331HYSN

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                      • #12
                        hunterb
                        CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 3796

                        OP, spend $400 and get a nice laptop that will last for years. Or spend $250ish on a nice android tablet. I would go samsung. Maybe look for a refurb deal.
                        Originally posted by johnthomas
                        ...The hardest part getting rid of crap is getting started.

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                        • #13
                          Viliphied
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2016
                          • 6

                          So, the most important question here that no one seems to have asked:

                          What are you going to use this computer for? Are there any specific programs you want/need installed?

                          I'll add my voice to the posters suggesting getting a new computer (or at the very least a factory refurb). Warranties on 2nd hand computers/parts tend not to cover much.
                          You always have to be one step ahead of your drunk friends.

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                          • #14
                            Hypersion
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2015
                            • 18

                            Maybe try a Linux flavor (Ubuntu) on the old netbook before spending any money.

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                            • #15
                              APV
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 620

                              Originally posted by sa champion
                              Current status..
                              Wife has a windows netbook with 1G ram which is pretty slow.
                              No experience with windows 8 or 10


                              Found these two desktop relatively cheap.
                              one is Dell Optiplex 745 with the following specs:

                              Intel Pentium D Processor @ 3.4 GHz)
                              4 GB DDR2 Memory
                              320 GB Hard Drive
                              CD-RW/DVD-ROM Optical Drive

                              Windows 7 Professional
                              Office 2013 Professional Plus
                              $75 or $60 without warranty

                              the other is Dell Optiplex GX620
                              Intel Pentium 4 with Hyper-Threading Processor @ 3 GHz)
                              2 GB DDR2 Memory
                              80 GB Hard Drive
                              CD/DVD-ROM Optical Drive

                              Windows 10 Enterprise
                              Office 2013 Pro Plus
                              $50 or $40 without warranty

                              The OS and office are NOT trial versions.
                              Thanks.
                              all computers that I upgraded to Win 10 from Windows 7 or 8 started working faster. One of them was an old Dell Optiplex desktop with 2 or 4GB RAM. I do not recall the exact model. I can check it on Monday. It started working faster as well. The downside of Windows 10 from my experience is a compatibility problem with old programs or in some cases it may take an afford to upgrade. User interface of win 10 is similar to win 7. From my experience if you do not deal with very old programs Win 10 would be preferable. Win 10 upgrade is currently free, so if a Win 7 based system is cheaper you can upgrade it to win 10 later. 2GB RAM is too small these days, it will be slow. 4GB is probably minimum for Windows OS. Pentium D is dual core faster than Pentium 4. 745 model seems newer than GX645 and has faster CPU according to their description. Latest and fastest with larger memory is always better for a computer. In this case in my opinion Pentium d with 4GB RAM is better than Pentium 4 with 2GB RAM. Win 7 can be upgraded to Win 10 for free. Office 2013 Professional is good enough.
                              Last edited by APV; 01-09-2016, 7:05 PM.
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