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  • #16
    the86d
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2011
    • 9587

    Sprint and Virgin were terrible on all the phones I tried, data would just creep to the 1000-2000 kbps for no reason at all, switching airplane mode and then airplane mode off fixed it, but it was all the time.

    Verizon was expensive (2x unlimited plan was about $200[well 180-190]/month), but people "say" it's better now.

    My lady had AT&T, and would drop calls all the time, same places, and a coworker had AT&T w/multiple phones, all had worse data, I mean terrible w/3g... than VZW (before LTE available), or T-Mo.

    In my office at work, I went through VZW (3g at the time), Sprint (no 4g available anywhere I went at the time), Virgin (signals always bouncing, to the left and to the right), AND T-Mo all of which have had the exact same dead-zone, and virtually 0-1 bars in my office at work, all actually bounced to zero signal, constantly, all of which had great signal outside the concrete walls.

    {Irrelevant info/chatter-like-it-matters:
    I have 4 phones w/T-Mobile, and now that I have paid for the phones, I actually saved money adding a 4th line (<$110 for 4 lines with unlimited everything [they say you get pushed to 3g, from LTE or 4g if you go over 2.5GB, but I have yet to see it, and the same with people I know], and streaming music doesn't count against your data w/T-Mo).

    One benefit to T-Mo is that if you don't have signal, but WiFi is available, then you can make phone calls and text via WiFi, if it is available, providing that you don't throw a custom ROM [Cyanogen, or some MFR-derivative-ROM] on it, if you want to use T-Mobile's WiFi calling/texting feature.}

    With as nice as it is to swap SIMs to another phone whenever I want, T-Mobile has been a blessing... open box phones on e-bay are CHEAP (~$100 for the newest LTE phone I desired for my son), and chopped SIMs have worked flawlessly.
    Last edited by the86d; 08-18-2015, 5:35 AM.

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    • #17
      vliberatore
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Dec 2011
      • 10055

      Originally posted by the86d
      Sprint and Virgin were terrible on all the phones I tried, data would just creep to the 1000-2000 kbps for no reason at all, switching airplane mode and then airplane mode off fixed it, but it was all the time.

      Verizon was expensive (2x unlimited plan was about $200[well 180-190]/month), but people "say" it's better now.

      My lady had AT&T, and would drop calls all the time, same places, and a coworker had AT&T w/multiple phones, all had worse data, I mean terrible w/3g... than VZW (before LTE available), or T-Mo.

      In my office at work, I went through VZW (3g at the time), Sprint (no 4g available anywhere I went at the time), Virgin (signals always bouncing, to the left and to the right), AND T-Mo all of which have had the exact same dead-zone, and virtually 0-1 bars in my office at work, all actually bounced to zero signal, constantly, all of which had great signal outside the concrete walls.

      {Irrelevant info/chatter-like-it-matters:
      I have 4 phones w/T-Mobile, and now that I have paid for the phones, I actually saved money adding a 4th line (<$110 for 4 lines with unlimited everything [they say you get pushed to 3g, from LTE or 4g if you go over 2.5GB, but I have yet to see it, and the same with people I know], and streaming music doesn't count against your data w/T-Mo).

      One benefit to T-Mo is that if you don't have signal, but WiFi is available, then you can make phone calls and text via WiFi, if it is available, providing that you don't throw a custom ROM [Cyanogen, or some MFR-derivative-ROM] on it, if you want to use T-Mobile's WiFi calling/texting feature.}

      With as nice as it is to swap SIMs to another phone whenever I want, T-Mobile has been a blessing... open box phones on e-bay are CHEAP (~$100 for the newest LTE phone I desired for my son), and chopped SIMs have worked flawlessly.
      How long ago did you use Sprint? In case you missed it, here are the latest network rankings. http://www.rootmetrics.com/us/blog/s...1h-national-us
      Sprint is closer to being as good as AT&T than TMO is to being as good as Sprint.

      Responding to your irrelevant into:
      Sprint doesn't throttle you if you use over XX GB of data.

      Wi-Fi calling is not something unique to TMO.
      Originally posted by fighterpilot562
      Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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      • #18
        sl0re10
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2013
        • 7242

        sprint prepaid has some nice (maybe subsidised) phones. $35-45-55 a month depending on how much data you want.

        I went with them mostly since I could get a pretty good / powerfull smartphone for $100 paid for outright / no contract.

        Nice if you break it; you can just buy another [good] phone for $100 w/o insurance.

        The data speed is not slow btw. No charge to tether but you do have a limit on data at these prices...
        Last edited by sl0re10; 08-18-2015, 7:43 PM.

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        • #19
          ambiguous216
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2006
          • 1214

          Glad you are happy with t mobile. What ever floats your boat.

          Doesn't matter what carrier you are with these days. No contract. You finance the phone and if you want to leave you just pay it off. As simple as that sounds you do know the contract just shifted to the device correct? I'm the end it's a money balancing act and it's more profitable for any carrier. Sooner or later all 2 year contracts will be history.

          Glad you are saving $900 a year. Perhaps you can post a copy of your bill so I to can save $900. Cheers!




          Originally posted by repomanNWP
          Sigh. I don't really think you want to be defending Verizon's billing practices. No credit is getting "screwed up", sir. In fact, Verizon sends you a final balance due with no itemized bill. I politely told them I needed to see a complete itemized final bill to know exactly what the charges are. They don't want to send it to you because they know their competitors require that to reimburse your ETF's. It's a big game, but hey, if you want to just hand over huge amounts of money to Verizon, be my guest, its a free country. For the record, they offered me 20% off my final bill, I didn't even bring it up, so I countered with 25% and they immediately said ok.



          No, they really are not. T-mobile started a price war, Sprint followed suit. This year they have taken a massive amount of customers away from Verizon.

          On an annual basis, I am saving $900 with T-mobile. It's enough too matter. That's for the same number of lines, and roughly the same data plan.



          Thank you, but I know what I'm paying and for what. Yes, with Verizon you get subsidized phones, at the expense of paying huge ETF's and overall higher costs for basic services. With T-mobile, you just buy the phone and you are free to leave anytime you want. They take trade-in's and discount their phones if you are switching, they have the usual assortment of low cost phones as well. Even with phone costs, I'm saving $900/yr and I have no lock-in. Look - I'm not trying to convince anyone, do what you want, I'm only providing my data and my experience, since that's what the OP really wanted to know.

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          • #20
            SneezySky
            Buy once cry once
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Oct 2013
            • 331

            Here's a guy evaluating several plans including his $10/month plan.


            Personally, I have several "free" secondary lines that use FreedomPop phone beta. The voice service was horrible on the HTC Evo but mostly acceptable on the iPhone (I have 3 in service). My guess is that it might require a phone with a more capable processor to work right since voice on the HTC did not improve even on WiFi.

            Quick summary of FreedomPop is that they give you (fairly generous) limited free minutes, free text, and free data per month and you buy the phone. The voice is basically voice over IP. The data (up to 4G LTE) is off the Sprint infrastructure. Voicemail is not included (use Google Voice if you need) and is an extra charge. The best part is it's free after you buy the phone!
            Live your life like you don't have a spare.

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            • #21
              2shotjoe
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              CGN Contributor
              • Feb 2011
              • 26395

              with att and tmobil being gsm, i'd go with tmob. why? Verizon has a ****ty connections up in the mountains where you may need it when there are no lane line call boxes.

              i am staying with Verizon since they have been good to me.
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              • #22
                NYT
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • Apr 2011
                • 3811

                Originally posted by vliberatore
                How long ago did you use Sprint? In case you missed it, here are the latest network rankings. http://www.rootmetrics.com/us/blog/s...1h-national-us
                Sprint is closer to being as good as AT&T than TMO is to being as good as Sprint.

                Responding to your irrelevant into:
                Sprint doesn't throttle you if you use over XX GB of data.

                Wi-Fi calling is not something unique to TMO.
                great site for carrier info. as i recall, you work for sprint is that correct?

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                • #23
                  vliberatore
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 10055

                  Originally posted by NYT
                  great site for carrier info. as i recall, you work for sprint is that correct?
                  I do, and I'm on the network side so no worries about me trying to sell anyone on anything. I do take some pride in the network and will defend it when needed, but I'm also realistic that Sprint has the 3rd best network in the US.



                  For anyone else reading this, I am more than happy to look up coverage in your area if you're interested in switching carriers. I'll be honest about the Sprint coverage and will recommend if you should or shouldn't look into a Sprint plan. Some people I have recommended, others I have told to stay away as the coverage in their area is poor. Just send me a PM with your zip and I'll check the towers in your area.
                  Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                  Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                  • #24
                    vliberatore
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 10055

                    Originally posted by bloodhawke83
                    with att and tmobil being gsm, i'd go with tmob. why? Verizon has a ****ty connections up in the mountains where you may need it when there are no lane line call boxes.

                    i am staying with Verizon since they have been good to me.
                    Maybe some mountains. Others only have Verizon coverage.

                    It depends on the tower location, geography, and wireless spectrum band that the tower is using.

                    Verizon and AT&T both have a good amount of low band spectrum which propagates better than high band spectrum. Think of it as AM radio vs FM.
                    Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                    Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                    • #25
                      NYT
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 3811

                      Originally posted by vliberatore
                      I do, and I'm on the network side so no worries about me trying to sell anyone on anything. I do take some pride in the network and will defend it when needed, but I'm also realistic that Sprint has the 3rd best network in the US.

                      For anyone else reading this, I am more than happy to look up coverage in your area if you're interested in switching carriers. I'll be honest about the Sprint coverage and will recommend if you should or shouldn't look into a Sprint plan. Some people I have recommended, others I have told to stay away as the coverage in their area is poor. Just send me a PM with your zip and I'll check the towers in your area.
                      cool, i remember that you offered some good info in another thread. my buddy works for verizon on the network engineering side. i am unbelievably jealous of his seemingly infinite budget.

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                      • #26
                        sholling
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        CGN Contributor
                        • Sep 2007
                        • 10360

                        "Best" depends on your locations and data needs. In my area T-Mobile coverage is much better than Verizon, but Verizon will have better coverage in a lot places - especially rural areas. In Anaheim it's a wash. Where T-Mobile beats Verizon is the price of their voice and data plans. I was a Verizon customer 15+ years until they dropped unlimited data, but since I like to be able to use a lot of 4-G data for cheap and to tether my tablet at no extra charge I made the switch and haven't looked back.
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                        • #27
                          vliberatore
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 10055

                          Originally posted by NYT
                          cool, i remember that you offered some good info in another thread. my buddy works for verizon on the network engineering side. i am unbelievably jealous of his seemingly infinite budget.
                          Oh it's nuts. I've only been here for a couple of years (was network engineering now network business operations) but I've seen a few projects that had absurd budgets. Heck, if talk to you friend about what it costs to bring coverage to the Super Bowl every year it begins to seem like Monopoly money.

                          Originally posted by sholling
                          "Best" depends on your locations and data needs. In my area T-Mobile coverage is much better than Verizon, but Verizon will have better coverage in a lot places - especially rural areas. In Anaheim it's a wash. Where T-Mobile beats Verizon is the price of their voice and data plans. I was a Verizon customer 15+ years until they dropped unlimited data, but since I like to be able to use a lot of 4-G data for cheap and to tether my tablet at no extra charge I made the switch and haven't looked back.
                          Great point. To add to this, Sprint was recently ranked the #1 network in Kansas City (tied with Verizon). Sprint isn't anywhere close to that rank in LA due to cost, regulatory, and border issues. ANY carrier's performance is highly dependent on where where you are.
                          Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                          Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                          • #28
                            ambiguous216
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 1214

                            So if you want Sprint go to KC. BTW can someone elighten us on their gun laws too?

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