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  • wheels
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 2292

    sub domain hijacked

    What a cluster. Get an email from google saying some strange email had verified as an owner of a sub-domain of one of my domains. Finally after hitting the domain and getting an IP address I realized it was coming from the server my sites are hosted on.

    I start checking thru the re-seller accounts, and then my own domains looking for some of the media files I see in the WordPress pages from this web site - no luck.

    So now I contact the hosting provider and ask for some help, after 3 or four hours (in total) in chat with them they resolve that another re-seller client is using the co-location to hijack sub-domains - apparently other re-sellers are able to enter DNS records for domains they do not own and get traffic.

    Biotch is the hosting provider's legal and abuse dept is still wrangling about what to do some 20 hours after finding out the problem, and I can't boot this jackhole out of my google search console until the web site goes down.

    Screwy thing is if google hadn't sent me that email I may have never known.

    The hijacked sub-domain is just selling products via links, but imagine if it was spreading malware - could get your domains blacklisted...
    The society that separates its scholars from its warriors, will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools. Thucydides
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    skunkbad
    Member
    • Nov 2012
    • 147

    Is this a cPanel hosting? I'd switch hosts. I once had a host that didn't know that any web hosting account user had complete file system access to all of the other accounts. Switched hosts the same day I figured that out. A lot of hosts don't know anything. They are just resellers selling resold hosting.

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      ExtremeX
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 7160

      Who is the hosting provider and who is managing the sites DNS?
      ExtremeX

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      • #4
        ocabj
        Calguns Addict
        • Oct 2005
        • 7922

        This whole scenario of shared hosting is one reason why I switched to Linode VPS's.

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        • #5
          wheels
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 2292

          Originally posted by skunkbad
          Is this a cPanel hosting? I'd switch hosts. I once had a host that didn't know that any web hosting account user had complete file system access to all of the other accounts. Switched hosts the same day I figured that out. A lot of hosts don't know anything. They are just resellers selling resold hosting.
          Sounds like me - problem for me is I am a long time MS guy who decided to make the jump to linux hosting just to force myself to learn a bit more. It is cPanel and I have learned a bit.

          Originally posted by ExtremeX
          Who is the hosting provider and who is managing the sites DNS?
          Namecheap is the provider, I manage all my sites DNS entries, issue is (maybe this is common place) the shared host is also the DNS server so all the hijacker probably did was figure out what other domains are also on the shared host and he/she was able to create DNS records in his account for sub-domains where the domain is hosted in my account. When the query came in for the hijacked sub-domain DNS provided the IP address response since the host "was" the DNS server for my domains and he had a WordPress site set up to act as the sub-domain.

          Namecheap has been pretty good but I was unimpressed by the obligatory "have you contacted Google?" about the email "warning" I got from Google about the verified account, and then the typical scripted questions until I sent them my DNS zone, and told them that the media files being used were not within my directories on the host.

          If I was better with Linux I may have been faster to figure out what was going on.

          Originally posted by ocabj
          This whole scenario of shared hosting is one reason why I switched to Linode VPS's.
          I probably should either get out of the business or learn enough so I'm not dangerous. That or stop learning on production machines
          The society that separates its scholars from its warriors, will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting done by fools. Thucydides
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          • #6
            skunkbad
            Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 147

            Just browsing info online it would appear that cPanel/WHM has built-in protection against the subdomain hijacking. I'm surprised that Namecheap is your host, as I would expect they would have decent hosting, although I've never used them. Perhaps their cPanel version is outdated or something. I don't see how this could be your fault, even if you are just learning on Linux.

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            • #7
              Frotz
              Member
              • Jun 2012
              • 417

              I use Linode for my VM hosting. They're good.

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