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  • Kestryll
    Head Janitor
    • Oct 2005
    • 21584

    A Reminder

    As the end of the year approaches and we look back on the ground we've gained, the victories we can claim and the ones we see ahead let's remember something before we get too carried away.

    As we have seen our actions and words have consequences and impact.
    There have been good things that have come from our efforts and discussions. How many OLLs are in California now? How long ago was it that individual gun owners, grassroots movements and National organizations all were able to work together to have the impact we've had? When was the last time the DOJ was called to account for their actions and inactions to the people they are suppose to represent?
    There have been some bad things that have come out of our words and expressions. There were many smaller consequences but the biggest one brought on by our words was the near loss of Calguns itself. No one has shown that the DOJ contacted Ramon but many suspect it and with good provocation.

    We know for sure now that we are being watched and that our posts are being read. Given how many people we KNOW about, how many more are there that haven't been revealed?

    As I have said before and it is becoming more true now, we are being perceived as the face of California firearms enthusiasts by much of our State Officials and Legislators. The impressions we give are watched and judged and will be used to our detriment if we give them a chance. Or we can force them to realize that we are not the rabble and unwashed masses they have been lead to believe by being what we are. People of every race, age group, gender, tax bracket, education level and creed, all working toward a goal of ensuring our freedoms are able to be passed down to our children and grandchildren.

    This doesn't mean we have to agree with those Officials and Legislators but it does mean that we should treat them with the intelligence and professionalism we want them to treat us with. At worst we will still fight and scrape to secure those freedoms but we will do it with dignity and honor. At best we may find less opposition then we expect or at least a passive resistance. All for the cost of exercising our intellect, integrity and honor. Pretty cheap isn't it?

    Calguns will remain, and we will continue to fight for our rights and freedoms but remember when you speak (post) you're not just speaking for yourself. This is the cost of stepping into the light and standing on the front lines.
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  • #2
    PanzerAce
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 4262

    +1 to everything you said, except....

    Originally posted by Kestryll
    Or we can force them to realize that we are not the rabble and unwashed masses they have been lead to believe by being what we are.
    does that mean I have to take a shower instead of spending my soap money on ammo
    "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order"
    -Ed Howdershelt


    Originally posted by hossb7
    HK is the best $500 gun you can get for $1,000

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    • #3
      anotherone
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2006
      • 972

      This post needs a sticky ASAP!

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      • #4
        Tweak338
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2006
        • 4076

        Originally posted by anotherone
        This post needs a sticky ASAP!
        +1

        That is one hell of a post Kest

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        • #5
          anotherone
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 972

          Originally posted by Tweak338
          +1

          That is one hell of a post Kest
          At the expense of sounding cheesy I'd almost say this post is kinda like the scene in Braveheart where he rides out and gives the speech in his warpaint.

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          • #6
            Sutcliffe
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2003
            • 6792

            good point

            Maybe we are getting a little too full of ourselves.

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            • #7
              Kestryll
              Head Janitor
              • Oct 2005
              • 21584

              Originally posted by anotherone
              At the expense of sounding cheesy I'd almost say this post is kinda like the scene in Braveheart where he rides out and gives the speech in his warpaint.
              The scary part is I do own a few kilts. One formal modern, one pre-pleated 'cheater' that was actually in the Liam Nesson movie Rob Roy and a traditional 'yards long piece of wool that I can fold and wear in the traditional manner.

              But I do not do face paint, that was the Picts anyways, and you will definitely not be seein' me ruddy bum!
              sigpic NRA Benefactor Life Member / CRPA Life Member / SAF Life Member
              Calguns.net an incorported entity - President.
              The Calguns Shooting Sports Assoc. - Vice President.
              The California Rifle & Pistol Assoc. - Director.
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              Opinions posted in this account are my own and unless specifically stated as such are not the approved position of Calguns.net, CGSSA or CRPA.

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              • #8
                PanzerAce
                Veteran Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 4262

                Originally posted by Kestryll
                But I do not do face paint, that was the Picts anyways, and you will definitely not be seein' me ruddy bum!
                Just wanted to chime in and say that I am a decendant of the Pict.

                Easiest way to tell? They are the source of all red hair in the world. If you have red hair, you are part Pict.
                "There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo. Please use in that order"
                -Ed Howdershelt


                Originally posted by hossb7
                HK is the best $500 gun you can get for $1,000

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                • #9
                  PIRATE14
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2005
                  • 3189

                  Big +++111:d
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                  • #10
                    tenpercentfirearms
                    Vendor/Retailer
                    • Apr 2005
                    • 13007

                    This serves as another reminder I need to send in my support check. I keep forgetting.
                    www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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                    • #11
                      Bikerscum
                      Junior Member
                      • Nov 2006
                      • 62

                      Well said.

                      And Kestryll...


                      I proudly wear my great grandfather's "swinging six" with my kilt. He was drum major for the Argyle band.


                      Bikerscum

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                      • #12
                        Yankee Clipper
                        Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 414

                        Kestryll (Head Janitor) Your point is well taken and needed to be posted. Luckily, with few exceptions, those forum members that post here impart many good points and thought provoking ideas. Some are obviously very learned. New readers get pointers on where to go to get valid legal opinions and where to access the text of the pertinent gun laws. I'd bet those that are supposed to enforce and interpret our state gone laws are surprised, when porous our banter, to find we're not all mouth-breathing-red-necks (myself being the exception).
                        "That Government should be of laws rather than of men"
                        Good old Harry Truman was correct when he observed, "My choices in life were either to be a piano player in a whore house or a politician. And, to tell the truth, there's hardly any difference!"

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                        • #13
                          John S
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 60

                          Originally posted by Sutcliffe
                          Maybe we are getting a little too full of ourselves.
                          I agree that folks need to keep it all in perspective as 200 and something of us know all to well the negative effects of internet chest thumping.

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                          • #14
                            odysseus
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 10407

                            Kestryll - Thanks for the writing, and to all here who make this one of the shortlist of sites I regular. For OLL's, this has been basecamp for all who have them.



                            Originally posted by PanzerAce
                            They are the source of all red hair in the world. If you have red hair, you are part Pict.
                            Not sure on the Picts being the source of all red hair in the world, from an anthropological point of view. Saying this though I am told from my mothers side I am also a descendant of these people.
                            "Just leave me alone, I know what to do." - Kimi Raikkonen

                            The moment the idea is admitted into society, that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence.' and that `Property is surely a right of mankind as real as liberty.'
                            - John Adams

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                            • #15
                              artherd
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Oct 2005
                              • 5038

                              Originally posted by Kestryll
                              Calguns will remain, and we will continue to fight for our rights and freedoms but remember when you speak (post) you're not just speaking for yourself. This is the cost of stepping into the light and standing on the front lines.
                              Well spoken Kes!

                              Best!
                              Ben.
                              - Ben Cannon.
                              Chairman, CEO -
                              CoFounder - Postings are my own, and are not formal positions of any other entity, or legal advice.

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