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  • Thefeeder
    Calguns Addict
    • Jun 2007
    • 5006

    Define "Collection"

    If you have a jar full of coins, are you a coin collector?

    Is having a safe full of firearms a collection?

    Your thoughts.
  • #2
    bplvr
    Senior Member
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jun 2008
    • 3946

    I posted something close to this a few weeks ago.

    General agreement, ref Cal gunners : It is a collection till you are on the 6:00news .Then you are a terrorist with a cache of weapons and live on a compound. If you have more than one weapon you have an arsenal.
    Please get used to the Facist terminology,it will be a way of life next year.
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    • #3
      sb_pete
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 1039

      One time I was in a Big 5 checking out some Mosins and some guy looking at shotguns asks me,
      "So, you collect guns or somethin'?"
      I looked at him and said, "Nah man, I shoot guns...

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      • #4
        CHS
        Moderator Emeritus
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2008
        • 11338

        Originally posted by Thefeeder
        If you have a jar full of coins, are you a coin collector?
        It would depend on your personal mindset. Some people would consider themselves a coin collector. Some wouldn't consider themselves a coin collector unless they had a booklet of coins with logs and grading scales and detailed records and etc. etc. etc.

        I've got a big jar of coins but don't consider myself a coin collector at all.

        However, I do have what I would consider a small collection of semi-valuable coins. I have collected them because they are personally interesting to me (some silver dimes, all three steel WWII pennies, etc). While I do consider that a small collection, I don't actually consider myself a coin collector.

        Originally posted by Thefeeder
        Is having a safe full of firearms a collection?
        I sure have a ton of guns, but I don't consider myself a gun collector. Hell, I only have one truly interesting firearm that has never been fired. The rest are shooters.

        I look at those crazy engraved 1911's in magazines that are sold as collectors pieces, but I could never see myself ever purchasing one. It would be pointless because I'd just ruin the collectors value by shooting it a whole lot. Plus, I find engraving and gold plating tacky. It's just not for me.

        So no, I'm not a gun collector. I just have a lot of guns and love shooting
        Please read the Calguns Wiki
        Laws that forbid the carrying of arms...disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes...Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man.
        --Cesare, Marquis of Beccaria, "On Crimes and Punishment"

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        • #5
          Moonclip
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 4390

          I accumulate guns, with specific accumulations in areas that interest me such as S&W pre lock DA revolvers.

          Can you own huge amounts of guns and still not be a collector?
          .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
          7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
          9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
          .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
          .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
          20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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          • #6
            Alan Block
            Veteran Member
            • Jan 2007
            • 3098

            I see a collection as

            A group of items that some knowlege can be obtained by virtue of their being together.
            This applies to coins, guns, cameras, cars and lint.

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            • #7
              Thefeeder
              Calguns Addict
              • Jun 2007
              • 5006

              Originally posted by Moonclip
              I accumulate guns, with specific accumulations in areas that interest me such as S&W pre lock DA revolvers.

              Can you own huge amounts of guns and still not be a collector?

              Moonclip has come to the true essance of this post.

              I consider him a S&W revolver collector and the rest are just guns to him...But a M29-1 or a M25 in mint condtion will make his mouth water.

              I would trade the same M29-1 for mint 20ga Browning Superposed in a heartbeat and jump up and down like a 5 year old on Christmas.

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              • #8
                Thefeeder
                Calguns Addict
                • Jun 2007
                • 5006

                Originally posted by bdsmchs
                It would depend on your personal mindset. Some people would consider themselves a coin collector. Some wouldn't consider themselves a coin collector unless they had a booklet of coins with logs and grading scales and detailed records and etc. etc. etc.

                I've got a big jar of coins but don't consider myself a coin collector at all.

                However, I do have what I would consider a small collection of semi-valuable coins. I have collected them because they are personally interesting to me (some silver dimes, all three steel WWII pennies, etc). While I do consider that a small collection, I don't actually consider myself a coin collector.



                I sure have a ton of guns, but I don't consider myself a gun collector. Hell, I only have one truly interesting firearm that has never been fired. The rest are shooters.

                I look at those crazy engraved 1911's in magazines that are sold as collectors pieces, but I could never see myself ever purchasing one. It would be pointless because I'd just ruin the collectors value by shooting it a whole lot. Plus, I find engraving and gold plating tacky. It's just not for me.

                So no, I'm not a gun collector. I just have a lot of guns and love shooting
                You are right ,the crazy 1911's in magazines are NOT collector pieces...they are after market gimics.

                Ever hear of Franklin Mint coins? Its not a US mint made coin ...No collector value, so what if they only made a 1000 of them. Same deal with the " Vietnam collector edition 1911" made by Urasucker. Its not from the Colt factory.....That is a huge, huge, huge differance

                The old hand engraving, hard to find guns in prime condition keep me broke

                As for machine photo eched, acid eched engraving...."Tacky" is an understatement...Looks like S***

                I would be interested in the story behind the "one interesting gun " you have and why is that one gun being preserved?
                Last edited by Thefeeder; 10-26-2008, 1:20 AM.

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                • #9
                  Max-the-Silent
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 786

                  The best explanation of "collecting" that I've run across is in this book:



                  Old Guitar Mania By Bill Blackburn.

                  The author is a Ph.D with a bad case of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome) and this book contains interviews with others that suffer with the same malady.

                  Specifically to firearms, it's entirely reasonable that a hunter could have a dozen rifles and not be a collector, but someone with three BPE double rifles could be a serious collector. I own several Glocks and in no way consider myself a collector of Glocks, but I'm a serious collector of S. & W wheelguns.

                  It all depends on intent.
                  Last edited by Max-the-Silent; 10-26-2008, 10:12 AM.

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                  • #10
                    tow4dough
                    Member
                    • Feb 2008
                    • 182

                    to me collectible firearms are anything in original configuration from when they were manufactured-regardless of condition. of course the better shape they're in, the more money they're worth.

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                    • #11
                      sorensen440
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2007
                      • 8611

                      Being a collector to me would be buying guns for the purpose of owning them not for shooting them/.
                      "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson

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                      • #12
                        Moonclip
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 4390

                        Originally posted by sorensen440
                        Being a collector to me would be buying guns for the purpose of owning them not for shooting them/.
                        But how do you explain people like me that they have or will shoot 99%+ of their guns but have not shot some of them in over 5 years?

                        I am a sorta collector I suppose.
                        .22short .22lr .22mag .25acp .32acp .32H&Rmag,.35rem .30carbine
                        7.62x25Tok 7.62x38r .380acp .38S&W .38spl 9x18Mak 9mmPara .35rem
                        9mmLargo .38super .357mag .40S&W 10mm .41mag .44spl .44mag
                        .45acp .45LC 6.5Carcano 7.7Japanese 7.62x54r 6.5Swede,6.5x54r
                        .30-40Krag 7.5French 8x57Mauser .223Rem 7.62x39 .410bore .30-30
                        20ga 12ga .303British 8x56r 7.5x55Swiss .30-06...

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                        • #13
                          AJAX22
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • May 2006
                          • 14980

                          I like obscure stuff and one offs...

                          the rest are just guns.
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                          • #14
                            smle-man
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 10580

                            I'm a gun magnet. They just seem to stick to me...I buy what I find to be interesting. For awhile I made an effort to collect Swiss SR action rifles with an eye towards specific models and variations (thus a 'collection') and bayonets and kit but I got tired of it, sold some, kept some and then started buying other firearms that appealed to me. I 'collect' firearms in the sense that I gather them in but I do not have the 'collector' syndrome that will cause me to spend obscene amounts of money for a firearm that has just the right cartouche on the stock. I find that being a gatherer of firearms is a heck of a lot more fun than being a bona fide collector.

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                            • #15
                              Gunaria
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 3894

                              Originally posted by Thefeeder
                              If you have a jar full of coins, are you a coin collector?

                              Is having a safe full of firearms a collection?

                              Your thoughts.
                              Having 3 or more safes full is a collection.

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