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  • shawnsennett
    Junior Member
    • Dec 2014
    • 1

    AMT Hardballer "Irwindale" Question

    I recently inherited an AMT Hardballer .45 1911 from my deceased Father. I found it has a broken rear sight pin. After a couple thousand rounds through the gun with excellent performance and accuracy, it was all over the place when I went to the range this last time to only find that the sight pin had broken. I have called around and have given a lot of stores laughs when I tell them what I am looking for. Other than exorbitant quotes from local gun smiths, any recommendations on where I could attain a rear sight pin for this? Thank you!
  • #2
    Bigedski
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 976

    Its a standard roll pin, go to Mcfadden-dale hardware and they can hook you up.

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    • #3
      BKinzey
      OT Banned
      CGN Contributor
      • May 2009
      • 4390



      Search kinda sucks, but they may have the part.
      Rogue American, Media Mercenary.
      "A firearm is just a tool. Any tool can be used as a weapon, but the most powerful weapons were written."

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      • #4
        63j300
        Member
        • Nov 2013
        • 386

        The extractor broke on my AMT 22 Backup and I was able to find one just can't remember where now. Just saying they are out there also if while you are looking for that if you the pin/lever for removing the slide get it. My brother had it break on his when I went by and asked them for a new one they gave me one for mine also as they are known to break. When his broke scared the dodo out of him as the slide came back and hit his hand.
        2 Timothy 3

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        • #5
          Twystd1
          Superfluous
          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
          • Oct 2009
          • 2692

          Send me a PM with a phone number.

          I know the son of the guy that I think designed that rear sight.
          Me thinks he has parts. And he is a FFL and a gunsmith as well.

          -T

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          • #6
            MrOrange
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 2262

            Don't know which particular pin you're talking about, but pin breakage was a regular occurrence on the Colt Elliason rear sight on Gold Cup pistols. In that case it was the traverse pin that the sight pivots on for vertical adjustments, which also holds the sight body on the gun. When it broke, you usually had a tiny lil' metal Easter egg hunt.

            The classic fix was a piece of drill rod. With machinist type drill sets, there are a whole big bunch of bits, in very small size increments. You'd find one that was a good press fit, cut a piece off of the shank to length and tap it in there.



            Zat it?
            Last edited by MrOrange; 01-20-2015, 10:58 PM. Reason: Add pic
            I meant, it is my opinion that...






            I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
            I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
            You're my kind of stupid. - M. Reynolds

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            • #7
              jyo
              Calguns Addict
              • Sep 2008
              • 5313

              Just take the gun to a proper gunsmith---not a hard fix...

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              • #8
                klewan
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2011
                • 3031

                Originally posted by Bigedski
                Its a standard roll pin, go to Mcfadden-dale hardware and they can hook you up.
                +1, the rest of the posters seem to have been military procurement peeps in a former life....Let's find the most expensive fix.

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                • #9
                  lastinline
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2014
                  • 2364

                  Congratulations on your inherited firearm. That is a nice example. As someone who collects 1911 clone guns from the 70's-90's, I like those.

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                  • #10
                    mossy
                    Junior Member
                    • Dec 2007
                    • 7384

                    congratulations agent 47.
                    best troll thread in calguns history
                    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=406739



                    burn the circus down cuz the world is full of clowns

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                    • #11
                      CGT80
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 2981

                      I have an AMT hardballer and an AMT Skipper, and an AMT Lightning 22 lr (copy of a Ruger MkII???).

                      That pin breaks often, and now on at least one of the pistols, the adjusting screw does not stay put. The detents do not hold the screw in place.

                      I have talked to a local gunsmith that specializes in 1911's. He says he should be able to machine the slide and install something like a Dawson adjustable sight, but I have not had him do it yet. Right now I shoot a Colt Combat Commander in nickel, instead, The colt sight is adjustable but does not move.

                      I will have to remember the drill rod trick.

                      Has anyone had experience with the adjustment screw for these sights? I think the sight has "micro" machined into it.
                      He who dies with the most tools/toys wins

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                      • #12
                        MrOrange
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 2262

                        Originally posted by Bigedski
                        Its a standard roll pin, go to Mcfadden-dale hardware and they can hook you up.
                        Originally posted by klewan
                        +1, the rest of the posters seem to have been military procurement peeps in a former life....Let's find the most expensive fix.
                        So your solution to a crappy part is to use a crappier part?

                        Mebbe shawnsennett wants to actually shoot the gun and not have pieces fall off.
                        If you just want to look at it, then it doesn't matter what quality the parts are.






                        Originally posted by CGT80
                        I have an AMT hardballer and an AMT Skipper, and an AMT Lightning 22 lr (copy of a Ruger MkII???).

                        That pin breaks often, and now on at least one of the pistols, the adjusting screw does not stay put. The detents do not hold the screw in place.

                        I have talked to a local gunsmith that specializes in 1911's. He says he should be able to machine the slide and install something like a Dawson adjustable sight, but I have not had him do it yet. Right now I shoot a Colt Combat Commander in nickel, instead, The colt sight is adjustable but does not move.

                        I will have to remember the drill rod trick.

                        Has anyone had experience with the adjustment screw for these sights? I think the sight has "micro" machined into it.
                        I'm guessing the parts involved in your case are really small, so I don't know if this will help, but on other sights I've taken a prick punch and deepened detents to help them hold.
                        I meant, it is my opinion that...






                        I do believe that where there is a choice only between cowardice and violence
                        I would advise violence. - M. Gandhi
                        You're my kind of stupid. - M. Reynolds

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                        • #13
                          klewan
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 3031

                          Originally posted by MrOrange
                          So your solution to a crappy part is to use a crappier part?

                          Mebbe shawnsennett wants to actually shoot the gun and not have pieces fall off.
                          If you just want to look at it, then it doesn't matter what quality the parts are.








                          I'm guessing the parts involved in your case are really small, so I don't know if this will help, but on other sights I've taken a prick punch and deepened detents to help them hold.
                          So they could enlarge the holes for the roll pin and use a larger one??? Or the solid one? This is not a repair you need to drop a $100 at the gunsmith to do. But then the level of mechanical ability is pretty low in Kali; so maybe they do need to leave it at the gunsmith for a year until he gets around to it....

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                          • #14
                            Bigtls1
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 579

                            Originally posted by Twystd1
                            Send me a PM with a phone number.

                            I know the son of the guy that I think designed that rear sight.
                            Me thinks he has parts. And he is a FFL and a gunsmith as well.

                            -T
                            Do you mind if I send you a PM too? I lost my rear sight on my AMT 1911 a year back and have yet to find a replacement. Its a difficult sight to replace (I've taken to different gunsmiths and the best they told me to do was "keep checking eBay").

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                            • #15
                              Twystd1
                              Superfluous
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 2692

                              Send it.

                              -T

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