Shooting and tennis elbow

[protohyp]

Man what a pain. Old age, slow recovery and astigmatism...can it get any worse? Well with the elbow (right arm) I can't extend my arm and it's even hard to pick my gun up off the table. Drawing from the holster is painful. Shooting .22 and 9mm is actually not a problem but .40? Forget about it. I use an elbow band, heat and ice with minimal results. But my left hand shooting and non dominant eye are getting really good. Guess that's the best that comes out of it.

Anyone else have injuries that hinder shooting?

[bigbearbear]

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[whipkiller]

Man what a pain. Old age, slow recovery and astigmatism...can it get any worse? Well with the elbow (right arm) I can't extend my arm and it's even hard to pick my gun up off the table. Drawing from the holster is painful. Shooting .22 and 9mm is actually not a problem but .40? Forget about it. I use an elbow band, heat and ice with minimal results. But my left hand shooting and non dominant eye are getting really good. Guess that's the best that comes out of it.

Anyone else have injuries that hinder shooting?

Have you tried Cortisone shots?

I got very good results for my tennis elbow a few years ago.

It was at the point that I could carry a gallon of milk just fine with the handle, but just picking up a piece of paper the wrong way was very painful, something about squeezing the fingertips together. I too used the elbow band, heat, ice, etc., with little to no relief.

Two (I think, maybe three) Cortisone shots and it's no longer an issue. I can still tell it's there, but not really painful, and I can do stuff just like I used to.

Racquetball, (that's how I injured it) shooting, hand tools, opening jars for my wife, all pretty much normal now.

[Bupkus]

You might try a Chiropractor. I get tennis elbow every once in awhile. It used to drive me nuts. It never failed. Once I got it, it seemed like it would take forever to go away. While I was seeing my Chiropractor for a back injury I got on my dirt bike, she asked me if anything else was bothering me. I told her about my right elbow pain. She grabbed my wrist with one hand and my elbow with the other and did some tweaking. A couple of days later my elbow was back to normal. It was like a miracle. Sounds like a testimonial doesn't it?

[L84CABO]

At the point that I can't even pickup a gun, it's time to get my butt into the Orthopedist and get things taken care of. Try injections. Try physical therapy. Try whatever else he has to offer and then surgery to fix it if nothing else works. Why live like this if you don't have to?

And this from a guy who is sporting a 5 inch scar on his right arm from a torn bicep tendon and Radial Tunnel Syndrom (RTS). It's worth it.

[KR_H]

Man what a pain.
Anyone else have injuries that hinder shooting?

[Beendare]

Oh man I had elbow tendonitis all last summer brought on by the way I was anchoring with my recurve. I don't wish that on anyone. Long and involved recovery- the final solution was a combo of icing, rest, Needling and massage- too long for this thread but if you need any advice, PM.

I wouldn't be out shooting with it if thats what you are doing......

[pacrat]

Lateral Epicondylitis is the term my orthopedic used AKA tennis elbow.

A condition where the tendons in your outer elbow joint impinge on the ulnar nerve and it hurts like the dickens.

Caused by repetitive motion wearing on the nerve sheath where the tendon is. In my instance it was shoving thousands of upper cabinets up against thousands of ceilings during installation over a 30 yr period.

I got much relief using an "ELBOW STRAP" which actually fits just below the elbow on the forearm. It compresses the muscles in the area against the tendon and keeps it from rubbing against the nerve casing.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Medline-Deluxe-Tennis-Elbow-Strap-1ct/16608862

That and cortizone shots semi annually allowed me to continue abusing my arms for many more years relatively pain free.

Hope this helps bring you some relief

[protohyp]

Lateral Epicondylitis is the term my orthopedic used AKA tennis elbow.

A condition where the tendons in your outer elbow joint impinge on the ulnar nerve and it hurts like the dickens.

Caused by repetitive motion wearing on the nerve sheath where the tendon is. In my instance it was shoving thousands of upper cabinets up against thousands of ceilings during installation over a 30 yr period.

I got much relief using an "ELBOW STRAP" which actually fits just below the elbow on the forearm. It compresses the muscles in the area against the tendon and keeps it from rubbing against the nerve casing.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Medline-Deluxe-Tennis-Elbow-Strap-1ct/16608862

That and cortizone shots semi annually allowed me to continue abusing my arms for many more years relatively pain free.

Hope this helps bring you some relief

Funny you should mention it but i'm 25 years in on the same profession. Even though I graduated architecture I hate sitting behind the desk so i'll design...then i'll build. sadly enough it may have been injured when I was talking on the phone swinging a golf club with one hand (have a mini range in our back yard). So with work it's tough to give it any rest. The kicker...I just bought a new tennis racquet and shoes....and the hits keep on coming

[OpenSightsOnly]

Man what a pain. Old age, slow recovery and astigmatism...can it get any worse? Well with the elbow (right arm) I can't extend my arm and it's even hard to pick my gun up off the table. Drawing from the holster is painful. Shooting .22 and 9mm is actually not a problem but .40? Forget about it. I use an elbow band, heat and ice with minimal results. But my left hand shooting and non dominant eye are getting really good. Guess that's the best that comes out of it.

Anyone else have injuries that hinder shooting?

Ah astigmastism! I take it that you have myopia as well? If so, then you can't use normal/everyday prescription for shooting. Your shooting prescription has to support the sight radius of the platform that you are using be it rifle or pistol. Also, you have to clock your lens for your astigmatism. No worries!

Tennis elbow. Have that too since I used to toss the javelin.

I re-injured this old injury this recent August plus I also have tendonitis on my forearm. I have been taking a break from shooting since mid-November. I have been icing the arm twice a day and have been taking fish oil (8 grams for two weeks until the inflamation went down) and chondroitin since advil and and cortisone shots did not work for me. Now, I'm doing negative bicep curls with 10lb and 25lb - doint negatives are really important!!

Take your time, don't rush it

[bohoki]

i had a horrible case of that after i was using a torque wrench in an aquard positon

after about a month of the annoying naggin of my elbow i bought some chinese electro stimulator and used it 15 minutes every night for a week and it helped or i may have got better on my own
put one pad on the outside of my lower arm the other above my elbow

tried all the modes and powers till i found one that wasnt too bad


it was cheap enough just use it with aaa batterys i'm not using anything from china that plugs into the mains

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acupuncture-Body-Slim-Massager-Digital-Therapy-Machine-With-AC-Power-2PCS-Pads/361074789851

[AregularGuy]

Have you tried Cortisone shots?

I got very good results for my tennis elbow a few years ago.

It was at the point that I could carry a gallon of milk just fine with the handle, but just picking up a piece of paper the wrong way was very painful, something about squeezing the fingertips together. I too used the elbow band, heat, ice, etc., with little to no relief.

Two (I think, maybe three) Cortisone shots and it's no longer an issue. I can still tell it's there, but not really painful, and I can do stuff just like I used to.

Racquetball, (that's how I injured it) shooting, hand tools, opening jars for my wife, all pretty much normal now.

I absolutely would not recommend this approach to treating a soft tissue injury. Even one shot of cortisone may begin to change the integrity of the tissue. Two or three and your potential for a tear increases dramatically, particularly in high load tendons. While cortisone can give better short term relief than alternative treatment your chances of the symptoms returning within a few months is high and at 1 year post injury you may be no better off, or worse, than similar folks that did not have injections.
Typically, if you have had symptoms for more than a few weeks, there is no more "-itis" or inflammation in the tendon. This necessitates a different approach to treatment, i. e. , ice for pain control, gentle stretching and exercise for the forearm, or more aggressive exercise if tolerated - Concentric or eccentric (negative portions) don't matter as much as simply exercising, addressing any muscle strength or flexibility imbalances in the upper extremity/upper quarter, elbow and cervicothoracic (lower neck) manipulation and mobilization with movement. It may take 6-8 months for this to resolve fully and you may end up with prolonged tenderness to touch (palpation) at the elbow, or even tenderness of the other elbow, even if your grasp and function is pain-free.

This is one of my specialty areas of treatment and I frequently perform literature reviews. I am happy to send any reference articles if you'd like to read up on the topic.

[HickFu]

Oh this is not good news! I got a diagnosis of tennis elbow after using a cane for a couple years (right handed) I now have had to learn to use it left but its been over a year and my right is still as bad as it was. Unfortunately I was also diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and every muscle and joint in my body hurts like hell.. Is there anything I can do to help this heal? It hurts to do anything right handed.

[AregularGuy]

Lateral Epicondylitis is the term my orthopedic used AKA tennis elbow.

A condition where the tendons in your outer elbow joint impinge on the ulnar nerve and it hurts like the dickens.

Caused by repetitive motion wearing on the nerve sheath where the tendon is. In my instance it was shoving thousands of upper cabinets up against thousands of ceilings during installation over a 30 yr period.

I got much relief using an "ELBOW STRAP" which actually fits just below the elbow on the forearm. It compresses the muscles in the area against the tendon and keeps it from rubbing against the nerve casing.

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Medline-Deluxe-Tennis-Elbow-Strap-1ct/16608862

That and cortizone shots semi annually allowed me to continue abusing my arms for many more years relatively pain free.

Hope this helps bring you some relief

Just an FYI for anyone who cares or is interested, the current trend is to call this lateral epicondylalgia. The -algia being pain vs -itis being inflammation. Histologically there is often no evidence of inflammation in biopsy studies of cases of epicondylitis. There are various changes that take place within the tissue structure of the common extensor tendon involved in lateral epicondylalgia . As the tendon attempts to repair itself there is angiofibroblastic hyperplasia with an increase in cell number and ground substance, vascular hyperplasia or neovascularisation, increased concentrations of neurochemicals, as well as disorganised and immature collagen formation.

This means that the normally springy, elastic, organized tendon becomes more spongy with increased chemicals that increase sensitivity to pain, as well as increased number and size of blood vessels, and a more haphazard arrangement of the tissue structure. The tendon can no longer attenuate the tensile forces placed upon it via muscle contraction. The compression of the vessels during muscle contraction in the presence of pain enhancing chemicals is one of the pain generating mechanisms of this type of injury (see also Achilles tendonitis/tendinopathy).
Incidentally, the ulnar nerve is actually unrelated to the injury as it is AKA the funny bone on the medial side of the elbow or the side closest to your body. The radial nerve is the nerve closest to the common extensor tendon effected in lateral epicondylalgia.

[protohyp]

Well I didn't expect it to get so scientific but it is interesting. Thanks for the info


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