Quick PPT question...

[Geetarguy]

How does one go about selling (PPT) a handgun that originally came with a 15 round magazine? Do I have to buy a 10 round magazine to do the PPT? Just wondering.....thanks....

[Librarian]

Buyer does - s/he will need 10-round mags anyway - or maybe the FFL might agree to lend one to the buyer for the safety demo.

[tonyxcom]

Just get a wooden dowel and cut it to about 2 inches and put it in the middle of the spring and reassemble mag.

Adjust length until it holds 9 or 10 rounds.

[Geetarguy]

Thanks for the info!!!

[PseudoTsuga]

How does one go about selling (PPT) a handgun that originally came with a 15 round magazine? Do I have to buy a 10 round magazine to do the PPT? Just wondering.....thanks....

Keep that fifteen rounder!
Sell the pistol with no mags, OR buy a ten rounder. You'll want that mag if you ever own that model again!

[Geetarguy]

Keep that fifteen rounder!
Sell the pistol with no mags, OR buy a ten rounder. You'll want that mag if you ever own that model again!

Can't sell it with no mags.....Turners won't do the transfer. Buyer has to buy new mags.

[JDay]

If I was the seller I would keep my legally owned standard capacity magazines.

[ke6guj]

Can't sell it with no mags.....Turners won't do the transfer. Buyer has to buy new mags.

no law says that you have to sell it with mags, just that there needs to be a mag available to do the demo. If I was the seller, I'd ask the FFL if we could use my large-cap magazine at the start of the PPT DROS to do the demo and then take the mag home with me.

I'm not aware of the PC saying that the demo had to be done at pickup although everytime I have transfered a handgun, it was always done at that time.

[ke6guj]

Is this "demo" thing something new?

I've bought & sold a lot of guns PPT but never had to do a "demo" of the gun at the dealer previously. Also don't see why a gun can't be sold w/o any mags. Dealers seem to be just making up their own rules about this. FWIW, I'd just buy a 10 round mag to include in the sale and raise the price accordingly.

not new for handguns, been in effect for probably 10+ years. now, how many dealers actually have the customer do the complete demonstation, who knows?

but starting in 2015, you are even required to do a demo on long gun transfers as well.

[Geetarguy]

no law says that you have to sell it with mags, just that there needs to be a mag available to do the demo. If I was the seller, I'd ask the FFL if we could use my large-cap magazine at the start of the PPT DROS to do the demo and then take the mag home with me.

I'm not aware of the PC saying that the demo had to be done at pickup although everytime I have transfered a handgun, it was always done at that time.

^^^I would have liked to do this...but the girl at the gun counter at Turner's dressed me down in front of the whole store and told me, "You need to get this magazine out of this store right now!!! This is a fifteen round magazine and it's illegal...I need you take this out of this store right now!!!"......soooo no hope in doing the demo with the original mag...lol They told my buyer he would have to return with a 10 round magazine or he would not be able to pick up the gun. Also would not let him use the lock that came with the gun or sign an affidavit that he owned a safe. Told him he would also have to purchase a new lock. I thought things were getting better in Commiefornia....guess not.....lol...

(((even though I bought this gun from a fellow calgunner in 2012 and did the transfer at the SAME Turners with the SAME equipment in 2012 with NO PROBLEMS)))

[jaymz]

IIRC, you can do the safe handling demo on a similar firearm.

[ke6guj]

IIRC, you can do the safe handling demo on a similar firearm.

the law says that the demo must be performed on "that handgun" but the safe affidavit allows you to do it with another handgun of the same "make and model".

[bsg]

If I was the seller I would keep my legally owned standard capacity magazines.

i would too.