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  • Excitable Boy
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 568

    Kimber Custom II TLE Repair Issue

    I've got a Kimber Custom II TLE that I bought used a few years ago. It's a full size 5" all steel 1911. It was from the run where they used the external extractors. I bought the gun from a friend for a fair price and had had it for several years. I didn't get the original documentation and didn't realize that there were specific recommendations as to certain maintenance things like when to replace the recoil spring. I just cleaned it and lubed it and ran it. It was a great performing pistol right up until I was at a range session and it repeatedly would FTE. On closer inspection, the extractor was laying on the shooting bench! I decided to send it in under warranty as I assumed it was all stock.

    I got a call from Kimber a couple days ago. They determined that there had been some internal mods done and that the springs weren't replaced at appropriate intervals and various other issues, so there would be some charges for the service.

    I was prepared for something like this and was surprised when the total charges were going to be about $110.00 including return shipping. It had cost me $173.00 to ship it UPS overnight insured back to them!

    They also noted that there were issues with the slides with external extractors, so they would have to build and fit a new slide with the internal extractor for my pistol and that would be done at no charge under warranty

    I was also advised that for about an additional $100.00 they would do a factory 3.5lb trigger job.

    I approved both charges. I should receive a nearly completely rebuilt Custom II TLE with a mostly new trigger group and an all new top end for a total investment of about $385.00.

    It was always a fine shooting pistol until the extractor fell out, so I'm pretty excited about getting it back with that liability removed. I've also got a better understanding as to the maintenance requirements of a 1911, so I can minimize wear and tear moving forward.

    I sent it off several months ago, so Kimber's service hasn't exactly been speedy, but they seem thorough and I'm excited to be getting my 1911 back soon!
  • #2
    johnny_boy02
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1480

    Man that shipping charges is crazy. Next time try looking into having a FFL ship it. They can send guns through the mail and it is much cheaper.

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    • #3
      El Toro
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2011
      • 1406

      Great that Kimber serviced all those items for around $200. Always nice to have a smith look over previously owned guns. I would buy a Wilson Combat flat recoil spring and set aside the Kimber spring. You will have a spring that will shoot way beyond 10k rounds and it will cycle flawlessly.
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      • #4
        JDay
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Nov 2008
        • 19393

        That's funny that they claimed to have to fit a new slide. Kimber does no hand fitting. All of their 1911 parts are interchangeable.
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        • #5
          Excitable Boy
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 568

          Originally posted by JDay
          That's funny that they claimed to have to fit a new slide. Kimber does no hand fitting. All of their 1911 parts are interchangeable.
          They actually said that they have to manufacture a new slide. I don't know if that means build one from stock parts or something else. You note that their parts are all interchangeable. Are you saying that there's no difference in fir and finish between all the different Kimber models? That seems a little hard to believe.

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          • #6
            JDay
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Nov 2008
            • 19393

            Originally posted by Excitable Boy
            They actually said that they have to manufacture a new slide. I don't know if that means build one from stock parts or something else. You note that their parts are all interchangeable. Are you saying that there's no difference in fir and finish between all the different Kimber models? That seems a little hard to believe.
            Yes. Their "Custom" guns are just the ones they pulled off the line that have the tightest tolerances. There is little difference between their 1911's. They all come off the same line before having engravings and the final finish applied.
            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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            • #7
              jaymz
              CGSSA Associate
              • Oct 2006
              • 6298

              $173 bucks for shipping?!?! Man have times changed. A few years ago, I shipped my XD back to Springfield Armory for $65 bucks. I thought that was high.
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              • #8
                Pyloop
                Banned
                • Jan 2015
                • 3

                a Joke

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                • #9
                  Excitable Boy
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 568

                  Originally posted by jaymz
                  $173 bucks for shipping?!?! Man have times changed. A few years ago, I shipped my XD back to Springfield Armory for $65 bucks. I thought that was high.
                  Yeah, I seem to have been hosed by UPS. The $213.00 in repair charges on the non warranty stuff (springs, new sear, factory 3.5lb trigger job) seems to include return shipping. Go figure.

                  The gun was bought 2nd hand and I'd never changed the recoil spring, so I don't think I'm in too bad shape. It was always a sweet shooting pistol and I bought it at a really good price, so in the end, I'll have a pretty much factory rebuilt pistol and still be into it for less than the cost of a new one, including my original purchase price and the repairs, after several years of shooting it. I'm not feeling too bad about the overall experience so far, but it has taken a while and I don't have it back yet. I'm curious as to what sights will come back on it as I'm pretty sure it had Trijocons on it originally and I know that Kimber now only uses Meprolights. Will it have the old sights on the new slide, or a new set of Meprolights?

                  I'll update this thread once I get it back.
                  Last edited by Excitable Boy; 01-27-2015, 10:48 PM.

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                  • #10
                    heidad01
                    Veteran Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 4902

                    Always ship 2nd day air. Should not be more than 75 bucks.
                    It is nice of Kimber to do free anything after your buddy's butcher job.

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                    • #11
                      Cali-Shooter
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 9192

                      Those external extractors... why did they even bother with those? As a cost-saving measure? Well, it looks like the money "saved" comes at the expense of the people who buy those guns. I'm just glad the only Kimber I own is one of the internal extractor models.
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                      • #12
                        Excitable Boy
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2009
                        • 568

                        I got a UPS notification today that my Kimber would be delivered tomorrow

                        Woohoo!

                        Oh wait, I won't be home to accept tomorrow so had to reschedule until Monday

                        I'm still excited to see what it looks like with a new slide, internal extractor, etc.. I will be very glad to have a nice 1911 back in my tiny collection

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                        • #13
                          stormvet
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 12681

                          I have heard several stories of Kimber taking good care of their customers, I would not be surprised if it came back with a brand new set of Mepro's on the new slide.
                          Post some pics when you get it back.
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                          • #14
                            JDay
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 19393

                            Originally posted by Cali-Shooter
                            Those external extractors... why did they even bother with those? As a cost-saving measure? Well, it looks like the money "saved" comes at the expense of the people who buy those guns. I'm just glad the only Kimber I own is one of the internal extractor models.
                            There's nothing wrong with external extractors on a 1911 if done right. Sig got it right on theirs.
                            Oppressors can tyrannize only when they achieve a standing army, an enslaved press, and a disarmed populace. -- James Madison

                            The Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms. -- Samuel Adams, Debates and Proceedings in the Convention of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, 86-87 (Pearce and Hale, eds., Boston, 1850)

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                            • #15
                              SoberClurichaun
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2013
                              • 1437

                              Originally posted by JDay
                              That's funny that they claimed to have to fit a new slide. Kimber does no hand fitting. All of their 1911 parts are interchangeable.
                              That is good to know!
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