OK, Ok, so I DID have a hassle at Oak Tree Gun Club!

[Steve_In_29]

Where are you supposed to return the lock that most manufacturers provide when you buy a new gun? Once you have a closet full of those, why shouldn't you be allowed to use one when purchasing a gun that doesn't come with a lock? Why should you have to make 2 side trips to Wally World to buy/return a lock when you have a closet full of locks that you will never use because you have a safe that CA has deemed sufficient?

This whole gun lock thing is a prime example of part of your sig...

While I agree with you on the stupidity of the law, if the lock was provided for FREE then how exactly is it a "hardship" as you claimed??

As for myself, I can't get to any gun stores without driving past at least one Wal-Mart on my way so no side trip involved. Plus Wal-Mart has pretty much the lowest retail prices on ammo so it's hardly a wasted trip for anyone.

[six seven tango]

While I agree with you on the stupidity of the law, if the lock was provided for FREE then how exactly is it a "hardship" as you claimed??

As for myself, I can't get to any gun stores without driving past at least one Wal-Mart on my way so no side trip involved. Plus Wal-Mart has pretty much the lowest retail prices on ammo so it's hardly a wasted trip for anyone.

The hardship is not being allowed to re-use that free lock, because of said stupid law, when purchasing a gun that doesn't come with one. Actually, the hardship is having to come up with a lock at all when you have a safe.

As far as Wal-Marts in my neck of the woods, the closest one to me is 5 miles in the exact opposite direction of any gun store that I frequent. Add to that fact that that Wal-Mart has all of crap for an ammo selection and, yeah, wasted trip. I can get a better selection of in stock ammo for probably a better price from several online retailers.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[Steve_In_29]

The hardship is not being allowed to re-use that free lock, because of said stupid law, when purchasing a gun that doesn't come with one. Actually, the hardship is having to come up with a lock at all when you have a safe.

As far as Wal-Marts in my neck of the woods, the closest one to me is 5 miles in the exact opposite direction of any gun store that I frequent. Add to that fact that that Wal-Mart has all of crap for an ammo selection and, yeah, wasted trip. I can get a better selection of in stock ammo for probably a better price from several online retailers.

I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Definitely agree to disagree, as I think it barely rises to irritation and in no way is a "hardship".

Was only comparing Walmart to other brick-and-mortar stores as I agree online is cheaper for ammo. You have no other reason to visit a Walmart besides ammo in the 10 days between purchase and pick-up that would allow for buying the lock? You also have 90 days to return it, as long as you hold onto the receipt so it's not like you have to hurry right over.

[The Gleam]

Why are you hanging on to a closet full of those crap locks anyway? They're cheap locks that aren't useful for much beyond meeting the requirement for sale, just throw 'em in the trash.

I have always said that we should all have some kind of public repository or receipt-providing exchange program for these locks, such as at a gun club, shooting range, or willing dealer that is not trying to make an extra buck off of selling gun locks - similar to the "need a penny take a penny, have a penny leave a penny" bin concept.

Anyone buying a handgun could then grab a single surplus gun lock, get a receipt for the same (even though it's free) to be used for their DROS. When all said and done, they could return it to the repository to be used again.

And hey, recycling is good for the environment and keeps unnecessary waste out of our landfills!!! What liberal democrat would NOT agree with that?

Anyone that was forced to buy one on spot, or got a CA DOJ "approved" lock that came with their gun from the manufacturer, could donate their to the repository to add to it's resources - because what else are you going to do with it especially if you have a safe or no need for a lock in the first place - throw it away?

They could go toward better use as keep a lot of money in all of our pockets to be used for buying more guns and ammo. The surplus I have to donate to such an exchange could really start such a program going hot out of the gate.

[Merc1138]

I have always said that we should all have some kind of public repository or receipt-providing exchange program for these locks, such as at a gun club, shooting range, or willing dealer that is not trying to make an extra buck off of selling gun locks - similar to the "need a penny take a penny, have a penny leave a penny" bin concept.

Anyone buying a handgun could then grab a single surplus gun lock, get a receipt for the same (even though it's free) to be used for their DROS. When all said and done, they could return it to the repository to be used again.

And hey, recycling is good for the environment and keeps unnecessary waste out of our landfills!!! What liberal democrat would NOT agree with that?

Anyone that was forced to buy one on spot, or got a CA DOJ "approved" lock that came with their gun from the manufacturer, could donate their to the repository to add to it's resources - because what else are you going to do with it especially if you have a safe or no need for a lock in the first place - throw it away?

They could go toward better use as keep a lot of money in all of our pockets to be used for buying more guns and ammo. The surplus I have to donate to such an exchange could really start such a program going hot out of the gate.

There's at least 1 gun shop(not local to me or I'd remember the name) that keeps a pile of used locks that they'll sell for a quarter just so they can put it on the receipt and then you put it back when you're done. It eliminates the need to swap receipts around.

There are also some PD's that will put a date on the back of a business card when handing out a free lock, some shops accept that.

[AMDG]

1. Make sure to get receipt for lock.
2. Put firearm in vehicle.
3. Return lock.

[The Gleam]

1. Make sure to get receipt for lock.
2. Put firearm in vehicle.
3. Return lock.

That's great, but some dealers will not allow you to return gun locks, particularly for this reason. They see it as their responsibility to sell you a lock with a gun and have no way to truly verify you have a safe or other means to "lock it up" away from kids.

Not that I agree with that, but your fool-proof plan will be met with opposition by many gun stores. Some might do it, but I can name at least 5 within my driving distance that won't.

[Merc1138]

That's great, but some dealers will not allow you to return gun locks, particularly for this reason. They see it as their responsibility to sell you a lock with a gun and have no way to truly verify you have a safe or other means to "lock it up" away from kids.

Not that I agree with that, but your fool-proof plan will be met with opposition by many gun stores. Some might do it, but I can name at least 5 within my driving distance that won't.

So buy the lock at the local sporting goods store on your way to the gun shop, then return it to the sporting goods store on your way back.

I agree that it sucks, and I don't think we should be subject to dealing with this stupid lock thing either, but it's not exactly high on the priority list for court cases.

[The Gleam]

So buy the lock at the local sporting goods store on your way to the gun shop, then return it to the sporting goods store on your way back.

I agree that it sucks, and I don't think we should be subject to dealing with this stupid lock thing either, but it's not exactly high on the priority list for court cases.

I really don't fret over it, at all. Just was adding the reality of how some stores treat the issue.

Taking the time to buy the lock elsewhere would cost me more money in my lost time spent on 2 extra trips, in the waste of my time, than just buying one at the gun store in which I am already standing, while buying or doing a PPT on the gun.

In most cases, for the guns I'm buying, the lock is such a small proportion to the overall price I am paying, it's too minuscule for me to worry. So I DON'T worry about it, and I don't stress about it not being high on the priority list for court cases.

I still think my "free trade" idea is a good one. I'd pitch in. If someone set it up as a 503c, I might even be able to deduct the donations from my taxes and use the retail of $9.95 as my fair-market value qualifier. Let's see, $9.95 times about 60 locks... Not too shabby!!

[Fight CA GC]

My questions are more important. Why are you doing business with them? Don't you know they support gun control? Don't you know they don't support us?

[stonefly-2]

I'm still looking for a use for those damn things...

sell them to ffl' s

[Jimi Jah]

When I picked up my Anderson lower last week I brought in 3 new, packaged gun locks. Then they said I don't need them anymore? I gave them away to other customers. If I chained them all together I could circle my house.

[Garv]

Buy stock in the primary lock companies to make up the loss?