New handgun purchase and PPT question

[SammieT]

I just recently picked up my new handgun on the 18th. A buddy of mine also wants to sell me his handgun as well. My question is, for me to do a PPT. Should I be required to wait to start my PPT from the pick up time I got my gun (10 day wait over) or can I start my PPT from the time it started my DROS?

[Quiet]

The 10 day wait is specific to the firearm being transferred.
Therefore, you do not have to wait for it to be over in order to acquire another firearm.

The 1 in 30 day wait on handguns does not apply to handguns that are being transferred via PPT.
Therefore, even though you are currently in the 1 in 30 day wait time frame for the handgun you acquired on the 18th, you can still acquire a handgun via PPT.

[Condorguns]

You can start your PPT at any time. The PPT is exempt from the 1 in 30 rule.

**Quiet beat me to it.

[SammieT]

The 10 day wait is specific to the firearm being transferred.
Therefore, you do not have to wait for it to be over in order to acquire another firearm.

The 1 in 30 day wait on handguns does not apply to handguns that are being transferred via PPT.
Therefore, even though you are currently in the 1 in 30 day wait time frame for the handgun you acquired on the 18th, you can still acquire a handgun via PPT.

You can start your PPT at any time. The PPT is exempt from the 1 in 30 rule.

**Quiet beat me to it.

Ah okay. Didn't know that. I thought it applies to the 1 in 30 rule. So it only applys for new purchases


I can buy as many handguns w/ PPT in a month without a limit?

[Quiet]

Ah okay. Didn't know that. I thought it applies to the 1 in 30 rule. So it only applys for new purchases

It applies to any handgun (new or used) that is being transferred out of the CA FFL dealer's inventory.

PPT is not out of the FFL dealer's inventory, which is why handguns acquired via PPT are exempt from the 1 in 30 day wait.

I can buy as many handguns w/ PPT in a month without a limit?

Yes.
The only limit is what you can afford.



Also note...
If you acquire two or more handguns from/through the same FFL dealer within five days, then that FFL dealer must report you to BATFE.
Some FFL dealers do not like doing the extra paperwork involved in doing this and will try to talk you out of acquiring multiple handguns within the 5 day time frame.
Some people do not like being flagged by BATFE, so they do not acquire multiple handguns within the 5 day time frame.

[SammieT]

It applies to any handgun (new or used) that is being transferred out of the CA FFL dealer's inventory.

PPT is not out of the FFL dealer's inventory, which is why handguns acquired via PPT are exempt from the 1 in 30 day wait.


Yes.
The only limit is what you can afford.



Also note...
If you acquire two or more handguns from/through the same FFL dealer within five days, then that FFL dealer must report you to BATFE.
Some FFL dealers do not like doing the extra paperwork involved in doing this and will try to talk you out of acquiring multiple handguns within the 5 day time frame.
Some people do not like being flagged by BATFE, so they do not acquire multiple handguns within the 5 day time frame.

What happens exactly when your reported to BATFE?

[Quiet]

What happens exactly when your reported to BATFE?

Depends on various factors.

Usually, they contact the FFL dealer and ask what's up (why and did it seem suspicious).
If it gets past the FFL dealer stage (they don't know why and/or it seemed suspicious), they then contact you and ask what's up (why and do you still have them all).
You also get placed on a watch list for awhile.


From my personal experience, my two multiple acquisitions have never gone past the FFL dealer stage.
1. auction wins
2. C&R FFL acquiring a batch of C&R handguns

[Gunsmith Dan]

The PPT 1 in 30 exemption only applies to in state transfers. If you do a PPT out of state the 1 in 30 rule applies.

[SoCal Bob]

The PPT 1 in 30 exemption only applies to in state transfers. If you do a PPT out of state the 1 in 30 rule applies.

How exactly would one do an out of state PPT?

[SammieT]

Now i can convince my wife to let me get another gun

[rideordie]

I didn't know about the mutiple guns in 5 days gets you reported. Like other have said on ppt 1in30 doesn't apply.

[SammieT]

Depends on various factors.

Usually, they contact the FFL dealer and ask what's up (why and did it seem suspicious).
If it gets past the FFL dealer stage (they don't know why and/or it seemed suspicious), they then contact you and ask what's up (why and do you still have them all).
You also get placed on a watch list for awhile.


From my personal experience, my two multiple acquisitions have never gone past the FFL dealer stage.
1. auction wins
2. C&R FFL acquiring a batch of C&R handguns

Thank you for the information

Learned something new

[Garv]

Just do not do the PPT in Los Angeles, they have a 1 in 30 rule for all types of gun transactions. I found out the hard way.

[ke6guj]

How exactly would one do an out of state PPT?

it gets processed as a dealer transfer, not a CA-defined PPT. so the 30-day rule applies, the roster applies, and the $35 PPT maximum does not apply.

[SoCal Bob]

it gets processed as a dealer transfer, not a CA-defined PPT. so the 30-day rule applies, the roster applies, and the $35 PPT maximum does not apply.

Thanks, I've just never heard of an out of state purchase referred to as a PPT before. I thought they weren't called a PPT since it required an 01FFL to receive it.

Learn something new everyday.