Some FFLs running out of, or have run out of, HSC cards.

[The Gleam]

BEWARE: it's that time of year again. Whether it's because of increased Christmas sales, or a run on last-minute SSE buyers unaware of the aware, or the CA DOJ simply doing what the CA DOJ is apt to do in shorting supplies to dealers, some dealers are starting to run low on, or out of, HSC cards.

Just a warning to those newbs (or the apathetic) just now trying to get some form of SSE over the next few days; you might find something, but have no ability to jump on it for lack of an HSC card. And there is really nothing a dealer can do in that moment if he does not have any, except refer you on to another FFL so you can get one; but I highly doubt they'll hold that SSE gun for you until you return with HSC in hand.

The guy next in line with the HSC in hand will likely get it while you fumble along.

[Quiet]

It's also the last week to get a HSC. [PC 31610(b)]

Starting 01-01-2015...
No new HSC will be issued, because they will be replaced by the FSC. [PC 31610(b)]



Penal Code 31610
(a) It is the intent of the Legislature in enacting this article to require that persons who obtain handguns have a basic familiarity with those firearms, including, but not limited to, the safe handling and storage of those firearms. It is not the intent of the Legislature to require a handgun safety certificate for the mere possession of a firearm.
(b) This section shall remain in effect only until January 1, 2015, and as of that date is repealed, unless a later enacted statute, that is enacted before January 1, 2015, deletes or extends that date.

Penal Code 31610
(a) It is the intent of the Legislature in enacting this article to require that persons who obtain firearms have a basic familiarity with those firearms, including, but not limited to, the safe handling and storage of those firearms. It is not the intent of the Legislature to require a firearm safety certificate for the mere possession of a firearm.
(b) This section shall become operative on January 1, 2015.

[cowboy777]

The HSC is going away as of Jan 1st. It will now be a FSC for handguns & longuns. Currently HSC test administrators had to prepay for the cards (sold in packs of 10)and would recoup the money as they issued them. Next year it will be done online and the store/administrator can print a single license at will. Most stores are trying to use the last of the licenses they have already paid for.

[Condorguns]

Yeah, I have one card left. I expect that won't last past the first hour today.

[BigPimping]

Who cares, they are obsolete in 8 days.

[Condorguns]

Who cares, they are obsolete in 8 days.

Based on the volume of phone calls and walk ins a lot of people care.

[Kablemodem]

They are still good after 1/1/15, but for handguns only.

[ke6guj]

Who cares, they are obsolete in 8 days.

if you want to buy a handgun in the next 8 days, and you don't currently have a valid HSC, then you would certainly care. and if you don't plan on buying long guns (or have a hunting license), you don't need an FSC, and your valid HSC would still be perfectly acceptable for handgun purchases for the next 5 years.

[Gunsmith Dan]

CA DOJ has already stated that all unused cards returned will get a refund or credit toward new ones. So there is no excuse for a gun shop not having enough unless they did jot read the CA DOJ letters.

[Marquand]

For those in the eastern SFV/Burbank/Glendale/Pasadena area the following stores report that they are out of HSC cards:

Guns Direct
Aegis Trading
Gun World
American Gun Works
Turner's Outdoorsman - Pasadena

[Marquand]

CA DOJ has already stated that all unused cards returned will get a refund or credit toward new ones. So there is no excuse for a gun shop not having enough unless they did jot read the CA DOJ letters.

How about DOJ not sending cards that were ordered? Guns Direct in Burbank ordered cards three weeks ago and still haven't received them. Hell, it's the Christmas rush - it's not like gun stores don't want to sell handguns.

[ke6guj]

Ambrose Armory has plenty of cards.

CA DOJ has already stated that all unused cards returned will get a refund or credit toward new ones. So there is no excuse for a gun shop not having enough unless they did jot read the CA DOJ letters.

right, but should shops be expected back in October to know how crazy the last two months would be and to order up hundreds of cards? a friend of mine said that he normally goes through around 20 a month so in early November, he ordered up 50. they took 6 weeks to get to him and he used up those 50 in like a week. but now, based on CADOJ shipment times, there's no point in even ordering more, they won't arrive in time.

If CADOJ was smart or at all cared about gun owners (yah right!), they would have started the FSC program on July 1 so that people could start getting FSC cards if they wanted to, even though they wouldn't need them until January for long gun purchases.

I know a guy who's HSC expires on 12/25 but his 30-days isn't up until 12/26. he's buying a new SSE gun on 12/26 along with a rifle. in order to start the DROS, he has to have a valid HSC so he gets to spend $25 for that. but in order to pick up the rifle in 10-days, he has to have a valid FSC, so he gets to spend another $25 for that as well.

[Condorguns]

CA DOJ has already stated that all unused cards returned will get a refund or credit toward new ones. So there is no excuse for a gun shop not having enough unless they did jot read the CA DOJ letters.

We did order double the normal amount and still burned through them in record time.

[ke6guj]

We did order double the normal amount and still burned through them in record time.

nope, still no excuse for that

[Condorguns]

nope, still no excuse for that