Gun death statistics question

[Thepug99]

Question when statistics say 11,000 gun homicde a year does it include justifiable homeicide?

[Condorguns]

Normally when numbers are reported under such a broad qualifier as homicide it will include justifiable. It will also include suicide.

[Oceanbob]

Suicides are a large part of reported gun deaths.

Homicides between Gang members (self cleaning oven) are a large part of Gun deaths.

See my signature for gun deaths involving Rifles. From the FBI.

[Jimi Jah]

Homocides are a general term for a non-natural death at the hands or cause of another. It's used to bump up stats when the term murder or suicide should be used.

[I Swan]

Um, the term is homicide not "homocide". Anyways it's kind of like how when they talk about children shot with guns they include up to and including 19 year olds and gang shooting each other.

[six seven tango]

Homocides between Gang members (self cleaning oven)

I LOL'd. Now I must clean coffee from my monitor and keyboard...thanks.

[Librarian]

The number of 'justified' shooting homicides reported is extremely small - statistically including/excluding them makes no difference.

But neglecting that care is a good indicator of the value of any conclusions provided with the data.

[toby]

Their numbers lie.

[CSACANNONEER]

FBI stats include suicides, accidents, justified shootings by law enforcement and civilians, etc.

[Noble Cause]

Question when statistics say 11,000 gun homicde a year does it include justifiable homeicide?

If your referring to FBI stats:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-2011/violent-crime/murder

Murder
The FBI’s Uniform Crime Reporting (UCR) Program defines murder and nonnegligent manslaughter as the willful (nonnegligent) killing of one human being by another.

The classification of this offense is based solely on police investigation as opposed to the determination of a court, medical examiner, coroner, jury, or other judicial body. The UCR Program does not include the following situations in this offense classification: deaths caused by negligence, suicide, or accident; justifiable homicides; and attempts to murder or assaults to murder, which are scored as aggravated assaults.

Data collection

Supplementary Homicide Data—The UCR Program’s supplementary homicide data provide information regarding the age, sex, and race of the murder victim and the offender; the type of weapon used; the relationship of the victim to the offender; and the circumstance surrounding the incident. Law enforcement agencies are asked—but not required—to provide complete supplementary homicide data for each murder they report to the UCR Program. Information gleaned from these supplementary homicide data can be viewed in the Expanded Homicide Data section.

Justifiable homicide—Certain willful killings must be reported as justifiable or excusable. In the UCR Program, justifiable homicide is defined as and limited to:
◾The killing of a felon by a peace officer in the line of duty.
◾The killing of a felon, during the commission of a felony, by a private citizen.

Because these killings are determined through law enforcement investigation to be justifiable, they are tabulated separately from murder and nonnegligent manslaughter

Noble