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  • TheOriginal
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    • Oct 2014
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    BKinzey
    OT Banned
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2009
    • 4390

    You are supposed to be able to, but your FFL may balk. You should contact them and see what they say.
    Rogue American, Media Mercenary.
    "A firearm is just a tool. Any tool can be used as a weapon, but the most powerful weapons were written."

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    • #3
      TheOriginal
      Member
      • Oct 2014
      • 228

      Originally posted by BKinzey
      You are supposed to be able to, but your FFL may balk. You should contact them and see what they say.
      Yeah im about to, cause I honestly dont know wtf their doing. I had to call the Department of federal bureau of firearms, and they said it was no problem. They also said I shouldnt even need to notarize a rental agreement. So im going to call them and let them know, because their making me waste an extra $20-30 bucks to get something notarized.
      Last edited by TheOriginal; 12-15-2014, 9:22 AM.

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      • #4
        BKinzey
        OT Banned
        CGN Contributor
        • May 2009
        • 4390

        This may be helpful, includes a link to the law.

        Rogue American, Media Mercenary.
        "A firearm is just a tool. Any tool can be used as a weapon, but the most powerful weapons were written."

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        • #5
          Marquand
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2013
          • 1482

          Nope. Your CA Driver's License or ID card must be valid at the time of DROS. No temporary IDs, no expired IDs.

          Remember, you have two government agencies to deal with here - the CA DOJ and the BATFE - and they have different requirements on what is acceptable documentation regarding firearms purchases. For example, the little brown DMV card that is issued when your address differs from the one listed on your Driver's License is NOT accepted by BATFE on the 4473 form. BATFE will allow a Safe Affidavit to suffice for handgun purchases in lieu of a lock...but CA DOJ does not.

          Regarding getting your lease agreement notarized, check with your FFL. Most do not require this to be done.

          Get your new ID and then go pick up your pistol. Much less hassle.
          "A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends upon the character of the user." - Theodore Roosevelt

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          • #6
            TheOriginal
            Member
            • Oct 2014
            • 228

            Originally posted by Marquand
            Nope. Your CA Driver's License or ID card must be valid at the time of DROS. No temporary IDs, no expired IDs.

            Remember, you have two government agencies to deal with here - the CA DOJ and the BATFE - and they have different requirements on what is acceptable documentation regarding firearms purchases. For example, the little brown DMV card that is issued when your address differs from the one listed on your Driver's License is NOT accepted by BATFE on the 4473 form. BATFE will allow a Safe Affidavit to suffice for handgun purchases in lieu of a lock...but CA DOJ does not.

            Regarding getting your lease agreement notarized, check with your FFL. Most do not require this to be done.

            Get your new ID and then go pick up your pistol. Much less hassle.
            Yea my DL was valid at the time of DROs, but since I lost it. I only have my old one left. The Federal Bureau of Firearms said it should be fine to bring in your temporary dmv license, and old license because they should have a copy of my valid id at time of dros on file. So it shouldnt be a problem right? Either way im going to give them a call. Worst comes to worst Ill just wait. I just feel so impatient

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            • #7
              BKinzey
              OT Banned
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2009
              • 4390

              I'm sticking with what makes your temporary ID valid is using it with your expired/ former address ID.
              Rogue American, Media Mercenary.
              "A firearm is just a tool. Any tool can be used as a weapon, but the most powerful weapons were written."

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              • #8
                TheOriginal
                Member
                • Oct 2014
                • 228

                Originally posted by BKinzey
                I'm sticking with what makes your temporary ID valid is using it with your expired/ former address ID.
                im definitely going to give it a try +1

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                • #9
                  JMP
                  Internet Warrior
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 17056

                  A good thing to have, in general, is a CA state ID card. It's like $19 and will work in the same capacity as your DL. However, because you DROSed with the actual, valid ID, they'd have photocopied it, so the FFL may let you since it's just a pick up. I say this notwithstanding the actual law because it seems like FFLs vary a bit in practice.

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                  • #10
                    tonyxcom
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 6397

                    I would hope that any reasonable FFL that made a copy of your DL at the time of DROS would accept a temporary DL for pickup. I highly doubt the DMV would get your replacement license to you before your pick up window ends.

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                    • #11
                      six seven tango
                      CGSSA Associate
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 1725

                      Originally posted by Marquand
                      ...BATFE will allow a Safe Affidavit to suffice for handgun purchases in lieu of a lock...but CA DOJ does not.
                      It's actually the other way around. CADOJ does allow it, it's the feds that don't allow for the safe exemption.

                      Firearm Safety Devices What is the Firearm Safety Device (FSD) law? Are there any exceptions to the Firearm Safety Device (FSD) requirement? Does the Firearm Safety Device (FSD) requirement apply to a firearm that is returned from pawn or consignment? Can a firearms dealer refuse to submit a DROS for a Private Party Transfer if the firearm does not include a Firearm Safety Device (FSD)? If a customer needs to purchase a Firearm Safety Device (FSD), should it be purchased at the same time as the firearm or when the firearm is delivered?

                      2. Are there any exceptions to the Firearm Safety Device (FSD) requirement?
                      Yes. The FSD requirement does not apply to the following:
                      Persons who can demonstrate the purchase of a Department of Justice-approved safety device in the 30 days prior to taking possession of the firearm by presenting the device to the firearms dealer and providing the firearms dealer with a receipt showing the purchase date and model name of the device.
                      The commerce of any firearm defined as an "antique firearm" pursuant to federal law.
                      The commerce of any firearm intended to be used by a salaried, full-time peace officer for law enforcement purposes.
                      Transfers of firearms to persons who demonstrate ownership of a qualifying gun safe.
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                      • #12
                        Condorguns
                        Still lost in the desert
                        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                        • Dec 2007
                        • 3302

                        I just had this come up for a customer. His DL was valid when he started the DROS, but it was punched and he had a paper temp at pick up. Because I had photocopied his license at the time of DROS I had no problem delivering to him.

                        He also wanted to start a new DROS and that I had to refuse.
                        You, you, and you: Panic. The rest of you, come with me.
                        Incoming fire has the right of way.

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                        • #13
                          TheOriginal
                          Member
                          • Oct 2014
                          • 228

                          Originally posted by Condorguns
                          I just had this come up for a customer. His DL was valid when he started the DROS, but it was punched and he had a paper temp at pick up. Because I had photocopied his license at the time of DROS I had no problem delivering to him.

                          He also wanted to start a new DROS and that I had to refuse.
                          Gotcha, good to know thanks!

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                          • #14
                            Marquand
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 1482

                            Originally posted by six seven tango
                            It's actually the other way around. CADOJ does allow it, it's the feds that don't allow for the safe exemption.

                            http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/fsdfaqs#2
                            Thank you sir. Gotta stop drinkin' and postin'
                            "A vote is like a rifle; it's usefulness depends upon the character of the user." - Theodore Roosevelt

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