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  • Dark&Good
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2008
    • 2106

    The 10 day wait

    Hi,
    I have purchased a Mossberg 500 shotgun online from Louisiana. Does the 10-day waiting period start from the date of purchase (when the seller got the money), or from the time when it arrives to the FFL dealer in San Rafael?
    "I don't know where you came from, and I don't know where you've gone
    Old friends become old strangers between darkness and the dawn..."

    Ben Harper

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  • #2
    mchector
    Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 185

    its the time you go in and start doing your paperwork haha


    Im on day 12 of my first handgun Haven't had a chance to go get it because of school

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    • #3
      bigthaiboy
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2007
      • 4795

      It starts from when you go into the receiving FFL's store and fill out the 4473 form and the FFL puts your details into the system. Then it's 10 x 24 hours period.

      Life can make you do many things, even kiss a man with a runny nose.

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      • #4
        gcvt
        Orlando, Florida
        CGN Contributor
        • Apr 2008
        • 13951

        It begins when you finish the paperwork at the FFL.
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        I want to be Princess Anastasia today because I feel pretty
        Originally posted by QuarterBoreGunner
        Kes is really just an errand boy
        Originally posted by Kestryll
        I am NOT...anything other than a schmuck...

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        • #5
          tenpercentfirearms
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Apr 2005
          • 13009

          What they all said. It can sit at that San Rafael gun store for a week and your ten days still won't start until the gun store submits your DROS.
          www.tenpercentfirearms.com was open from 2005 until 2018. I now own Westside Arms.

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          • #6
            stretch64
            Member
            • Dec 2007
            • 173

            Does the receiving FFL have to have the gun in possesion before they start the DROS?

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            • #7
              stphnman20
              Calguns Addict
              • Feb 2005
              • 6583

              Originally posted by stretch64
              Does the receiving FFL have to have the gun in possesion before they start the DROS?
              YES

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              • #8
                Dark&Good
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2008
                • 2106

                Who voted on this???
                And shipping alone can take 2 weeks sometimes...
                "I don't know where you came from, and I don't know where you've gone
                Old friends become old strangers between darkness and the dawn..."

                Ben Harper

                "It's a free country... or, at least, it will be."
                - The Patriot -

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                • #9
                  Black Majik
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 9695

                  Originally posted by Dark&Good
                  Who voted on this???
                  And shipping alone can take 2 weeks sometimes...
                  11 days from BIG 5 sounds better already!

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                  • #10
                    Dark&Good
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 2106

                    By the way, WAS there voting on these laws? I'm a "fresh" resident of CA, no idea how these things work here...
                    "I don't know where you came from, and I don't know where you've gone
                    Old friends become old strangers between darkness and the dawn..."

                    Ben Harper

                    "It's a free country... or, at least, it will be."
                    - The Patriot -

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                    • #11
                      ohsmily
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 8997

                      Originally posted by stretch64
                      Does the receiving FFL have to have the gun in possesion before they start the DROS?

                      Originally posted by stphnman20
                      YES
                      NO. The DROS can be started before the gun is in possession of the dealer. It is done all the time. It can be done with handguns too but you would need the serial number.
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                      • #12
                        The Cable Guy
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 1277

                        You should've ordered it locally unless it was highly customized. 1-2 weeks to ship to FFL, FFL will handle paperwork and dros, and then make you wait another few days, on top of that, you pay the store in Louisianna and the FFL transfer fee.

                        www.theshootersblog.com

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                        • #13
                          NineteenElev3n
                          Member
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 427

                          Originally posted by ohsmily
                          NO. The DROS can be started before the gun is in possession of the dealer. It is done all the time. It can be done with handguns too but you would need the serial number.
                          I have heard this practice is unlawful, but that is hearsay.

                          What the local FFLs in this area practice is that the 10-day waiting period does not start until the DROS is submitted to the DOJ, then the wait begins, ten-24-hours periods must pass until the customer can take delivery of the firearm. I have heard that the FFL must have physical possession of the firearm until the DROS can be submitted.

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                          • #14
                            FortCourageArmory
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 1001

                            Originally posted by NineteenElev3n
                            I have heard this practice is unlawful, but that is hearsay.

                            What the local FFLs in this area practice is that the 10-day waiting period does not start until the DROS is submitted to the DOJ, then the wait begins, ten-24-hours periods must pass until the customer can take delivery of the firearm. I have heard that the FFL must have physical possession of the firearm until the DROS can be submitted.
                            At my last DOJ audit, this is exactly what my friendly auditor told me as well. Haven't verified if it's true or not, but when he performed my audit, the first thing he did was to check the outstanding DROS's I had done in the last 10 days against the firearms present in my vault. He told me if he found that one wasn't there, that he would have written it up as a violation. You do the math.

                            I don't start a DROS if the firearm isn't present in the store. CYA.....
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                            • #15
                              sb_pete
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 1039

                              Originally posted by FortCourageArmory
                              At my last DOJ audit, this is exactly what my friendly auditor told me as well. Haven't verified if it's true or not, but when he performed my audit, the first thing he did was to check the outstanding DROS's I had done in the last 10 days against the firearms present in my vault. He told me if he found that one wasn't there, that he would have written it up as a violation. You do the math.

                              I don't start a DROS if the firearm isn't present in the store. CYA.....
                              hmmm, didn't know that. I've experienced this scenario though. As I understand it, it would only apply with pistols though. My understanding (please correct me if wrong) is that you do not need the serial number of a longarm. As such, there would be nothing to audit in that respect. Is this true?

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