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  • weaverftw
    Member
    • Nov 2014
    • 162

    How much bullet setback is dangerous?

    Just curious how much a bullet can be setback before it would cause dangerous pressure spikes. I noticed a .40sw round that I had chambered only twice in my Sig was slightly shorter than a fresh round, so I measured it and it was 1.11235 vs 1.11265 for an unchambered round. At what point should I throw a round away, rather than shoot it at the range when I cycle rounds out of my mags?

    I'm particularly worried about the .40sw rounds since I've read that it's particularly susceptible to over-pressure (especially the 180gr loads).

    Thoughts?
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    highpower790
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 3481

    You have a couple too many numbers.Get rid of them and youll be fine,provided you are following a manual.
    Last edited by highpower790; 11-29-2014, 6:09 PM.
    Keep it simple!

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    • #3
      weaverftw
      Member
      • Nov 2014
      • 162

      Oops, I added a digit. It was actually 1.1235 vs 1.1265. Some fresh rounds measure as short as 1.1255. How much setback would make the round dangerous to shoot? Just to be clear, I'm not reloading, just measuring the bullet setback from chambering a round several times.

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      • #4
        highpower790
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 3481

        .010 shoulnt make a difference.
        Keep it simple!

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        • #5
          Catch
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2013
          • 1327



          Something felt off while loading these today. To be fair, they were from a blemished box of PPU 165gr.

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          • #6
            RTE
            Senior Member
            • May 2009
            • 1948

            Originally posted by Catch


            Something felt off while loading these today. To be fair, they were from a blemished box of PPU 165gr.
            Use one of these and put that round in the for range use box.

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            • #7
              RR.44
              CGSSA Leader
              • Mar 2012
              • 1931

              .10 shouldn't hurt, anything more than that and pressures will start to rise.
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                deerdeerdeer
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2014
                • 2696

                Kaboom!

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                • #9
                  weaverftw
                  Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 162

                  Originally posted by RR.44
                  .10 shouldn't hurt, anything more than that and pressures will start to rise.
                  Do you mean 0.10, or 0.010? Ie, if 1.1255 is the average for a fresh round, would 1.0255 be the cutoff or 1.1155? I could visually detect the 0.002 difference (which is what led me to measure), so a full 0.10 seems like a huge amount.

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                  • #10
                    uhlan1
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 6217

                    Reloading 9mm at least I don't worry if within .005.

                    1.1235 vs 1.1265 I personally wouldn't worry about. There are variations even in factory ammo.
                    "Hence it happened that all the armed prophets conquered, all the unarmed perished." - Niccolo Machiavelli

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                    • #11
                      cgates
                      Member
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 463

                      I would add that it also depends on how close the load is to max. With factory ammo you cant say for sure. A more sensitive round like the above poster mentioned that is already running at max could be dangerous even with a small amount of setback.

                      OP - in your specific case right now a small amount of setback shouldn't be cause for concern, but that might not always be the case.

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                      • #12
                        357magnum
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2014
                        • 1219

                        Originally posted by weaverftw
                        Do you mean 0.10, or 0.010? Ie, if 1.1255 is the average for a fresh round, would 1.0255 be the cutoff or 1.1155? I could visually detect the 0.002 difference (which is what led me to measure), so a full 0.10 seems like a huge amount.
                        Are you sure your reading your calipers right, a common piece of paper has a thickness of .003-.004
                        You have incredible eyes if you can see COAL difference of .003-.004
                        Are you sure its not .030-.040
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                        • #13
                          weaverftw
                          Member
                          • Nov 2014
                          • 162

                          Originally posted by 357magnum
                          Are you sure your reading your calipers right, a common piece of paper has a thickness of .003-.004
                          You have incredible eyes if you can see COAL difference of .003-.004
                          Are you sure its not .030-.040
                          Yes I'm positive it's .003 difference, I double checked twice with calipers. I do have good eyesight, but I didn't notice the difference in length by looking at the total length of each round, I noticed it by comparing how much of the base of the bullet was poking up above the case head. It's easier to see the difference when the total length you're comparing its less.

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                          • #14
                            357magnum
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2014
                            • 1219

                            Originally posted by weaverftw
                            Yes I'm positive it's .003 difference, I double checked twice with calipers. I do have good eyesight, but I didn't notice the difference in length by looking at the total length of each round, I noticed it by comparing how much of the base of the bullet was poking up above the case head. It's easier to see the difference when the total length you're comparing its less.
                            However you are determining the OAL difference, .003-.004 is not going to matter at all.
                            Factory ammo OAL varies more than .003-.004
                            Check and measure several different boxes of factory ammo, you will find they are all over the place in OAL.
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                            • #15
                              CK_32
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                              There is no real number to give.

                              A lot of factors come into play to have a set number.

                              If it's more than a littler, throw it away. Saving $0.26 is not worth risking $600 and more in injury and med bills.
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