anyone here know about the 6.5pcc??

[mif_slim]

I read up on it but would like to know from actual CGN shooters who own it and their experience would be greatly appreciated.

Most I read are from the creater of the cartridge so of course claims will always be positive.

[russ69]

do you mean 6.5 PPC?

[mif_slim]

Nope, pcc (Patriot Combat Cartridge).

Here is their website:

http://illirianengineeringc.ipage.com/products-and-service-info.html

[Steve_In_29]

How is this different from the 6.5 Grendel? Both are based on the .223 case and use 6.5mm projectiles, so I don't see where they will be able to get any appreciably different ballistics out of the 6.5PCC.

On edit: Just realized I was thinking about the 300Blk when I said it was based on the .223 case. So the 6.5PCC is basically a souped up 300Blk then? Smaller bullets able to be pushed faster due to more powder.

[mif_slim]

From what i understand the 6.5 pcc has a few fps less than the 6.5 grendel but uses standard 5.56 bolt face, so, the bolt should be able to hold more abuse since the face isnt as thin as the grendel.

In short, barrel change and your done. Similar to the 300aac but in the mid range and maybe even long range (havent done ballistics) while still in the AR15 platform.

[russ69]

Nope, pcc (Patriot Combat Cartridge).

Here is their website:

http://illirianengineeringc.ipage.co...vice-info.html

I could not find the case dimensions but I have a few comments. The 6X47 based on the 222 Rem Mag case (way longer than a 223) is not enough for the 6mm much less a 6.5mm. So I find it hard to believe a 6.5 based on any 223 wildcat case is going to have adequate powder capacity for good performance. If it truly is starting with a 223 case, it's all been done before and the results were modest at best. You need a fatter case for the 6.5, the 22-250 case is a good starting point.

[mif_slim]

Just found this right now..humm...interesting.

http://www.m4carbine.net/showthread.php?105865-New-6-5mm-Patriot-Combat-Cartridge-223-Based-AR-15-Specific

Seem like AR15barrel was in there too. I wonder if he has 1st hand experience?? Im only on 2nd page so, dont know the entire detail..

[Fjold]

I could not find the case dimensions but I have a few comments. The 6X47 based on the 222 Rem Mag case (way longer than a 223) is not enough for the 6mm much less a 6.5mm. So I find it hard to believe a 6.5 based on any 223 wildcat case is going to have adequate powder capacity for good performance. If it truly is starting with a 223 case, it's all been done before and the results were modest at best. You need a fatter case for the 6.5, the 22-250 case is a good starting point.

The 223 case is 45 mm long and the 6X47 is only 2mm longer not "way longer".

If the 6.5PCC is based on the 300 BLK case, it has a rebated rim the same size as the 223 case and a much fatter body.

[BajaJames83]

ive been thinking about 6x45

[russ69]

The 223 case is 45 mm long and the 6X47 is only 2mm longer not "way longer".

Don't confuse the 6X47 with the 6X47 Lapua, they are two different cartridges. The 222 Rem Mag case is 1.850 and the 223 is 1.760, if you have 222, 223 and 222 rem mag brass in a big pile you can easily pick out the 222 Rem Mag, it's much longer. I shoot all three and I also shoot a 6X47.

If the 6.5PCC is based on the 300 BLK case, it has a rebated rim the same size as the 223 case and a much fatter body.

"...has delighted many of our customers with great accuracy and surprising levels of power from it's .223 Remington based cartridge case."

The 300 BLKOUT is a shortened 223, the body is the same diameter.

[Fjold]

Don't confuse the 6X47 with the 6X47 Lapua, they are two different cartridges. The 222 Rem Mag case is 1.850 and the 223 is 1.760, if you have 222, 223 and 222 rem mag brass in a big pile you can easily pick out the 222 Rem Mag, it's much longer. I shoot all three and I also shoot a 6X47.

"...has delighted many of our customers with great accuracy and surprising levels of power from it's .223 Remington based cartridge case."

The 300 BLKOUT is a shortened 223, the body is the same diameter.

I don't care what you call it. It's still 2mm longer. 47mm - 45mm = 2mm

A case difference of less than a tenth of an inch (1.850" - 1.760" = 0.09" or 2mm) is not "way longer".

[mif_slim]

Haha, 47mm is 47mm.. maybe one cartridge counts off mm and the other by inches? that would be a whole lot different.

Anyway, to the OP. I guess no one in CA has tried this wild cat round. I might give it a shot. I like 6.5 bullets and the 5.56 brass..

[silvertriple]

@ Slim....just get a 6.5 grendel...haha. I love my grendels.

Check out the 6.5x40 wildcat. It looks like a 6.8 SPC necked down to take 6.5 bullets.

[mif_slim]

Haha, i know. Its easier but its the brass that i got sitting around... too many 5.56. Lol.