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  • JTROKS
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Nov 2007
    • 13093

    Waken up at 02:15 AM

    By my alarm sensor telling me "DOWNSTAIRS" meaning someone moving about the family room. I've always thought I knew what to do in case that scenario happens. This is exactly what I did and yes feel free to provide productive criticism.

    As soon as I heard the alarm sensor I quickly jumped off the bed to grab my Sig P6 out of my HD Bag that has my stream light stinger flashlight, Gerber Fairbaine & Applegate knife, pepper spray and 2 extra mags. I keep the P6 in condition 3 so I quickly pull the slide back and with just the lamp shade light I see a round on top of the loaded magazine and released the slide to chamber a round. My wife wakes up but is asking me what is going on. I had to tell her 3x that the alarm sensed someone downstairs. She was getting up as I made my way to the unlit hallway to halt any advances being made from downstairs. I quickly yelled out, "You better get the F^<# out of my house I have a gun and I will shoot you!" My wife went to my kids' room to check on them as I hear her trying to wake up my oldest boy to call 911.

    Since I did not hear the sensor again Im thinking it might be a false alarm so I call my wife and quietly told her to hold off on calling 911. I then told her to get the 12 Ga pump shotgun out of the closet and get the rounds too. She hands me an unloaded shotgun so I held the Streamlight between my lips holding it steady with my my teeth and said get the rounds. She hands me two shotgun shells, so with the P6 in my right hand still pointed at the stairs I used my left hand to place the shotgun between my legs and quickly load 2 rounds in the mag tube and I asked her for 4 more rounds. She hands me more than 4 so I de-cock the P6 and handed it to her informing her there's one in the chamber. She grabs the P6 and I quickly rack a round in the chamber then proceeded to load rounds until it was full.

    I stuff the remaining rounds in my shorts' left pocket. I then yelled, "You better get the F^<# now I got a shotgun and I'm coming to get you" this is just to get some movement for the alarm sensor to pick up on. I asked my wife to check through the window if there's a car or vehicle in front of the house that's not ours or the Neighbors and she said none she can see. I then motioned to my wife to keep eyes and gun ready towards stairs. I then made quick peeps on the stairs making sure it's clear. With my dog still laying down just looking at me Im thinking it's just a false alarm. My wife instructed my oldest boy to call 911 right away if something happens. I slowly go down the stairs looking at all angles for someone to bushwhack me with shotgun pointed where I look. My wife moves a few steps behind me to the cleared area. Cleared everything downstairs and a sigh of relief, just a false alarm.
    Last edited by lorax3; 11-11-2014, 1:57 PM.
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  • #2
    TanksEcho
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 294

    Tense story at first.. At least you were prepared. Maybe go over a plan with your family for scenarios on what their tasks are in case of events like this

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    • #3
      TanksEcho
      Member
      • Jan 2013
      • 294

      Why was the shotgun not loaded?

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      • #4
        VictorFranko
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Jan 2010
        • 13737

        Glad all is OK.
        Since you asked, seems like lots of fumbling around racking slides, decocking, handing things back and forth with your wife, loading shotgun, etc.
        Since my wife hasn't had any training, other than a few range trips, I wouldn't want her behind me with a loaded gun in that situation.
        You didn't mention your heart rate or your bunghole pucker during all of this

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        • #5
          FresnoRob
          Senior Member
          • May 2013
          • 2133

          I may misunderstand but if the flashlight was on the entire time you were messing with the shotgun you were a target. I am a firm believer that flashlights and lasers have their place but you don't run around the house with them waving about not knowing what may be lurking in the dark. If you see something then you light it up to be sure of you target. Just my humble opinion.

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          • #6
            VictorFranko
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2010
            • 13737

            Originally posted by FresnoRob
            I may misunderstand but if the flashlight was on the entire time you were messing with the shotgun you were a target. I am a firm believer that flashlights and lasers have their place but you don't run around the house with them waving about not knowing what may be lurking in the dark. If you see something then you light it up to be sure of you target. Just my humble opinion.
            I didn't want to say too much, but I agree. In your own home where you are familiar with the layout, darkness is your friend.

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            • #7
              keenkeen
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2011
              • 6782

              Story seems really incomplete...

              What brands are your pepper spray and 2 extra mags?

              "But far more numerous was the herd of such, Who think too little and who talk too much." -John Dryden

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              • #8
                Condorguns
                Still lost in the desert
                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                • Dec 2007
                • 3302

                Glad it was a false alarm.
                Possible issues. ...

                1. Pick a primary gun. This is the one you grab in the oh shot moment. Don't get stuck messing with multiple weapons when the situation can change quickly.

                2. Learn flashlight discipline. Light is not always your friend.

                3. The stairs would have been your soft spot in this situation. You did a lot of yelling from upstairs, having to then go through the choke point of the stairs could have been deadly. You need to decide now if you will be making a stand upstairs or down. If it's down don't give up your position until you are off the stairs and have cover.

                This will be a good learning experience for your whole family.
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                • #9
                  CoopsDad
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2013
                  • 1710

                  I would've checked on the kids after arming myself. The story might have ended with you confronting one of your own kids on the living room on a midnight cookie run.

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                  • #10
                    Flyin Brian
                    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 3395

                    I had this happen once, and judging by the OP, I grossly under-reacted!!
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                    • #11
                      GardoneVT
                      Member
                      • Apr 2014
                      • 434

                      Why would you yell to the thug? If he's uncivilized enough to enter your home without permission in the dark, he's uncivilized enough to not care what you say-or worse, take you seriously and start shooting through walls.

                      Two-if I were an anti-gun DA, I'd use your statements as proof you were looking for a fight. First you verbally challenge them, then tell your spouse to NOT call 911, then 'clear' the house in order to confront the unfortunate minority honor student who broke in accidentally, so as to kill them in cold blood. The case, and the headlines, writes itself.

                      Now I don't pose that scenario to say what you did was morally wrong-but given that any citizen, cop or not, who uses deadly force faces losing their reputation and their life's work to legal expenses on a BS political witch hunt, I'd find it best to have 911 on the line first and to hole up in the bedroom.

                      That way Mr Thugs gonna have to walk through a wall of lead to get into your bedroom, and his corpse lying in your doorway will be plenty of proof he was neither honorable or a student. Better to let your tax money go to work and have the cops with lawsuit insurance via their department clear your home-that way THEY get the heat if your home invader decided to hide.Worst case, they find nothing and get some free home-clearing practice and everyone goes home safe and sound.

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                      • #12
                        kcjr1125
                        Veteran Member
                        • Apr 2012
                        • 3883

                        pretty tense but i think you should definetely plan a little better. Seemed like there was a lot of fumbling around and those may have been precious seconds that you may have never gotten back if things turned for the worst.

                        I would suggest the wife not follow you around the house. What if the perp got the jump on you? He/she could have disarmed the both of you and then you would have been screwed.

                        My plan is for me to quietly try to see whats going on with my loaded 12g, no yelling no lights etc, while the wife hides behind the bed with the 357 in one hand and the cell in the other. I have a flashlight on my 12g that i would only turn on and point it at the perp when i believe i would have them in my sights.

                        to add to this i wouldn't go "looking for the fight" either. when i say " see whats going on" i mean listen very carefully, take a peek around the corner, slow movements and staying a vigilant as possible to the scenario before me. As stated above, yelling and racking at someone just makes everyone's nerves that much more tense and the likely hood of something wrong happening or a mistake taking place when adrenaline is pumping for all parties involved are much higher.
                        Last edited by kcjr1125; 11-11-2014, 7:51 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Socalman
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 1339

                          Think of the extra time that would have elapsed if current proposals in Los Angeles had been in effect: All weapons must be locked and unloaded.

                          At least if LA passes it, it will be shot down by SCOTUS.

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                          • #14
                            SMarquez
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2011
                            • 2216

                            Refine your plan to have your wife respond without your direction. She needs to be on automatic as either the alarm or you wake her. Weapons, lights, phone or what ever you both need an efficient ordered sequence of events.

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                            • #15
                              JohnnyMtn
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1475

                              I had a very similar situation occur except that we weren't sleeping but were all in different rooms upstairs. I had just 20 mins prior secured the bottom floor for the night when our alarm indicated that a door had been opened. My wife and I immediately went into action - she grabbed our kids and went into a secured room; I positioned myself at top of my stairs with handgun and flashlight and listened intently.

                              It turned out to be a false alarm from one of the door sensors. In the 7 years I have lived here, that has been the only time a door sensor has given a false signal.

                              Where my plan went astray was after waiting quietly for 10 mins I started to assume/realize that it was a false alarm. It had never been in my plan to clear my house because I always regarded that as a bit extreme and risky. But I soon realized that I would either wait there all night or I would have to go downstairs and confirm that it was a false alarm. That was a seriously puckering experience. And I realized that I have a serious blind spot at the bottom of my stairs with no real way to know what is/was around the corner.

                              I also realized that a weapon-mounted light would not be for me w/o extensive training. I was holding my light in one hand with my other on the gun (sort of Harries method). I was so amped up that if anything had jumped into my beam then I would have shot. I quickly learned that the gun should be pointed down and not straight forward. Not sure if that is the best practice but that is what I did to avoid firing w/o thinking if someone had jumped into the light. Main thing I learned was that I need a lot more training for such scenarios.

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