Map for UOC?

[gun toting monkeyboy]

Does anybody know where I can get a map highlighting the 1000 foot radius of all the school zones in San Diego county? I ask because I have not been able to find a good one online that shows where all the schools are. And I would really hate to get nailed for walking into a store, only to find that there is a school a few blocks away, and I broke the law.

-Mb

[hawk1]

Why would you "get nailed for walking into a store" anyhow? Lots of people walk into stores everyday.

I think you're leaving out a part of your story...

[GuyW]

Does anybody know where I can get a map highlighting the 1000 foot radius of all the school zones in San Diego county? I ask because I have not been able to find a good one online that shows where all the schools are. And I would really hate to get nailed for walking into a store, only to find that there is a school a few blocks away, and I broke the law.

-Mb

I don't think it exists (maybe could buy a San Diego SANJIS GIS map with custom overlay, but I bet it's expensive).

Basically, you have to make your own map on a area-by-area basis

[gun toting monkeyboy]

There is no story. I have not started carrying openly. But when I do, I want to make damned sure that I know EXACTLY where the no-go areas are. With our UOC lunch at El Indio coming up, I did a search of the area, and found a school listed nearby. It is over 1000 feet away, but it got me thinking about it. There are literally hundreds (yes, hundreds, I counted) of schools in the county. That means hundreds of 1000 foot minimum diameter sections of the map where we can get busted for carrying a firearm openly. I guess about the only thing my computer illiterate monkey brain can come up with is buying a map with all of the schools marked on it, and breaking out a compass to draw scale circles around each one. If anybody has a better idea, please let me know.

-Mb

[Greg-Dawg]

Google maps.

[Nefarious]

There is no story. I have not started carrying openly. But when I do, I want to make damned sure that I know EXACTLY where the no-go areas are. With our UOC lunch at El Indio coming up, I did a search of the area, and found a school listed nearby. It is over 1000 feet away, but it got me thinking about it. There are literally hundreds (yes, hundreds, I counted) of schools in the county. That means hundreds of 1000 foot minimum diameter sections of the map where we can get busted for carrying a firearm openly. I guess about the only thing my computer illiterate monkey brain can come up with is buying a map with all of the schools marked on it, and breaking out a compass to draw scale circles around each one. If anybody has a better idea, please let me know.

-Mb

I typed out a long response msyelf to hawk1's post... untill I noticed the sarcastic emoticon

[Army]

Why would you "get nailed for walking into a store" anyhow? Lots of people walk into stores everyday.

I think you're leaving out a part of your story...

If he has a gun in the store, that is within the 1000'zone, he could be charged.

HOWEVER!!!

It is NOT up to you to know exactly where any and all K-12 schools are, nor where the 1000' boundry ends/begins. The law reads that you should REASONABLY know. Strange town, unknown school locations, not your fault if a violation occurs.

Obviously, if you have lived in the area for enough time, you will learn where the schools are by the "school crossing" signs. There is little excuse in my town, as I have lived here all my life. But in San Diego, you can't reasonably know where every school is outside your neighborhood.

626.9. (a) This section shall be known, and may be cited, as the
Gun-Free School Zone Act of 1995.
(b) Any person who possesses a firearm in a place that the person
knows, or reasonably should know, is a school zone, as defined in
paragraph (1) of subdivision (e), unless it is with the written
permission of the school district superintendent, his or her
designee, or equivalent school authority, shall be punished as
specified in subdivision (f).

[tmuller]

It's google maps, you may want to pm Robitrocks...he did a great job with it for the first UOC meet.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=107905&highlight=San+Diego+open+carry&page=2

[hawk1]

Easy now guys, hold back the dogs.

I was just trying to get him to fill in the reason why he was concerned. One thing I've learned reading all the open carry threads is, if you're going to open carry then make damn well sure you know what you're doing. That and have your own bail me out of jail fund ready.

If he is upfront in why he is looking for the info, someone "in the know" may have the answer, as well as, more indepth information he may not be aware of and should be concerned with...

[Librarian]

There is no story. I have not started carrying openly. But when I do, I want to make damned sure that I know EXACTLY where the no-go areas are. With our UOC lunch at El Indio coming up, I did a search of the area, and found a school listed nearby. It is over 1000 feet away, but it got me thinking about it. There are literally hundreds (yes, hundreds, I counted) of schools in the county. That means hundreds of 1000 foot minimum diameter sections of the map where we can get busted for carrying a firearm openly. I guess about the only thing my computer illiterate monkey brain can come up with is buying a map with all of the schools marked on it, and breaking out a compass to draw scale circles around each one. If anybody has a better idea, please let me know.

-Mb

No, that's about the size of it. There are computer graphics tools to do it, but they're mostly clumsy. (I found a place that would draw circles on a Google Earth Map).

A really cautious person would do several overlapping circles from each corner of the school properties, since the 1000' rule could easily be interpreted as from the edge of the property. I have a school here in Concord where the property is over 1000' wide - a circle centered on it would be much smaller than needed, and one centered on the Lat/Long of the street address would extend easterly only within the school grounds.

ETA Relying on such a map to accuracy better than about 10' would be imprudent, in my opinion.

[GuyW]

A really cautious person would do several overlapping circles from each corner of the school properties, since the 1000' rule could easily be interpreted as from the edge of the property. I have a school here in Concord where the property is over 1000' wide - a circle centered on it would be much smaller than needed, and one centered on the Lat/Long of the street address would extend easterly only within the school grounds.

1000 feet is CLEARLY from the edge of the school site, and most likely IMHO from the boundary of the property ownership....in many locations (including the City of San Diego) - that will be the centerline of the street....

[Liberty1]

There are also a lot of "schools" which will appear on a search which to not trigger the 626.9 prohibition. You could ask the government for a list or map of the zones but you'll only hear crickets as they don't even know.

Having sent such a letter (registered return receipt mail and kept a copy - e-mail might be better) however, would give you a decent defense if ever unlawfully popped for 626.9 as it would show your ignorance of the zones having asked for official guidance and help to obey the law. They won't respond IMO and that would be good too.

But at the same time I don't really want them to create a map as then the "you should have known" is easier to prove.