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  • Sikvenum93
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 2181

    Why dont indoor ranges allow steel case/russian ammo?

    Well i went to an indoor shooting range today and I forgot to take out some tula rounds in my magazine and I shot them. When I shot them I didnt see any sparks, i didnt get ricochets, the range didnt explode etc. So what gives with this rule?
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  • #2
    vliberatore
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    CGN Contributor
    • Dec 2011
    • 10055

    IIRC they have a bimetal jacket and the steel can cause damage to the range.

    That said, my local indoor range allows it.
    Originally posted by fighterpilot562
    Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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    • #3
      Canucky
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2007
      • 4265

      ^^^^^
      They no like everything looking like swiss cheese.

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      • #4
        Merc1138
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        • Feb 2009
        • 19742

        Originally posted by vliberatore
        IIRC they have a bimetal jacket and the steel can cause damage to the range.

        That said, my local indoor range allows it.
        That and they don't want to be bothered to check if it's just the case that attracts a magnet, or the projectile itself. It's easier to just ban all of it since they sell ammo anyway and won't have to worry as much about staff letting some slip through(assuming they bother to check).

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        • #5
          CSACANNONEER
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          • Dec 2006
          • 44093

          Depends on the backstop and what the range wants to do. The range I worked at allowed it.
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          • #6
            tnlrat37
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2010
            • 2166

            And they want the brass for reloading
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            • #7
              postal
              Banned
              • Mar 2008
              • 4566

              I think all of you are wrong.

              In my experience with indoor ranges.... those greedy 'a hats' will sweep up ALL of your brass before you have a chance to pick it up.

              They STEAL your brass to reload and sell to other customers at a HUGE mark up. Since steel case is not reloadable, they want you to GIVE THEM brass case ammo, or spend way to much on their crap reloads with brass they stole from previous customers.

              That is my HONEST observation. I've seen it first hand...
              ---edit--- TNI posted as I was typing...

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              • #8
                vliberatore
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                • Dec 2011
                • 10055

                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                Depends on the backstop and what the range wants to do. The range I worked at allowed it.
                Did it have a rubber backstop? Something like this?

                Originally posted by fighterpilot562
                Damn it man! We could have got drunk, called a taxi and drop by Kest house with a mega phone.

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                • #9
                  Sikvenum93
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2014
                  • 2181

                  Ahh ok. I feel its kinda dickish of them since i gotta use brass even though the tula stuff is so much cheaper. And its not like steel cased ammo is steel core. It aint armor piercing.
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                  • #10
                    Merc1138
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19742

                    Originally posted by postal
                    I think all of you are wrong.

                    In my experience with indoor ranges.... those greedy 'a hats' will sweep up ALL of your brass before you have a chance to pick it up.

                    They STEAL your brass to reload and sell to other customers at a HUGE mark up. Since steel case is not reloadable, they want you to GIVE THEM brass case ammo, or spend way to much on their crap reloads with brass they stole from previous customers.

                    That is my HONEST observation. I've seen it first hand...
                    ---edit--- TNI posted as I was typing...
                    Oh that's definitely a part of it, but it's not necessarily the only reason. Afterall, the steel cases can be sorted out with a magnet, and those same ranges aren't necessarily banning aluminum cases.

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                    • #11
                      postal
                      Banned
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 4566

                      Cheap Wolf and some others handgun ammo is steel or alu cased but aint no steel in the bullet......

                      And they KNOW THAT....

                      The only reason they dont allow it, is they cant steal your brass and reload it.

                      It happened to me once at a local indoor range. I reload. I wanted to keep my brass.... and that A hat bumping the broom into my feet to get the brass AS I WAS SHOOTING IT...... was plenty reason to never EVER go back.

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                      • #12
                        kygen
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jun 2012
                        • 3259

                        I just know that those ranges that don't allow steel case pistol ammo are losing my money.
                        Originally posted by thrillhouse700
                        I have to wait until all the info is in before I make a statement. Obviously the family dogs had it coming.... other than that, waiting on more info.

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                        • #13
                          shda5582
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2013
                          • 1175

                          Originally posted by postal
                          I think all of you are wrong.

                          In my experience with indoor ranges.... those greedy 'a hats' will sweep up ALL of your brass before you have a chance to pick it up.

                          They STEAL your brass to reload and sell to other customers at a HUGE mark up. Since steel case is not reloadable, they want you to GIVE THEM brass case ammo, or spend way to much on their crap reloads with brass they stole from previous customers.

                          That is my HONEST observation. I've seen it first hand...
                          ---edit--- TNI posted as I was typing...
                          The only indoor range I've shot at has been Bass Pro in Rancho. They have never given me grief about picking up my own brass.
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                          • #14
                            robodeer
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                            • Oct 2007
                            • 561

                            What ranges hassle you if you pick up your own brass?
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