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  • #31
    2meterB
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 1728

    Originally posted by postal
    USAA and their personal valuables policy do not cover ammo. I have usaa.
    I just checked too - the usaa ccount quote is twice as high as collectinsure.

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    • #32
      RandyRhoads
      Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 493

      Originally posted by postal
      Yeah.... seriously.... I need to find a pic of my Randy Rhoads with custom paint for you....


      Here's the back of my home made RR... the pic was airbrushed from a real photo. (I have a friend thats a really good airbrush artist....)

      I want....

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      • #33
        postal
        Banned
        • Mar 2008
        • 4566

        Originally posted by RandyRhoads
        I want....
        I live in Riverside, the airbrush artist who painted this guitar (actually owns it but it's at my house right now... we traded work... him painting stuff for me, and me make him this guitar since he's an RR fan) lives nearby....

        We took it to the 30th Anniversary of RR's death at the cemetary in San Bernardino for the event, which is only about 15 miles away. It was a crowd pleaser... the painter has pics of it from the event in front of RR's tomb.

        If you 'really want'.... I can build another, and he can paint it... though I think the graphic on the front should also be black and white- I think it would look better than the color work he did.

        It would be however, something in the ballpark of 5k.... and be a top notch custom working guitar. ( I worked at fender guitar factory in Corona for 3 years- making guitars at home and taking them to work playing 'show and tell'... see what I can do? give me a better job!)

        ...and I have this stuff laying around the house, and it is NOT currently insured....

        I need to find an appraiser that can deal with custom one off guitars and have the appraisal sent to the ins co to cover this stuff...
        Last edited by postal; 10-24-2014, 8:02 PM.

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        • #34
          RandyRhoads
          Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 493

          Originally posted by postal
          I live in Riverside, the airbrush artist who painted this guitar (actually owns it but it's at my house right now... we traded work... him painting stuff for me, and me make him this guitar since he's an RR fan) lives nearby....

          We took it to the 30th Anniversary of RR's death at the cemetary in San Bernardino for the event, which is only about 15 miles away. It was a crowd pleaser... the painter has pics of it from the event in front of RR's tomb.

          If you 'really want'.... I can build another, and he can paint it... though I think the graphic on the front should also be black and white- I think it would look better than the color work he did.

          It would be however, something in the ballpark of 5k.... and be a top notch custom working guitar. ( I worked at fender guitar factory in Corona for 3 years- making guitars at home and taking them to work playing 'show and tell'... see what I can do? give me a better job!)

          ...and I have this stuff laying around the house, and it is NOT currently insured....

          I need to find an appraiser that can deal with custom one off guitars and have the appraisal sent to the ins co to cover this stuff...
          Hell I wish I could. I'm glad you're here...although i'm not looking at replacing my RR for a while, I was browsing to find one a little more authentic and close to what he plaid than the RR3's and such. Do you make them to the same standards with materials as Jackson? I couldn't seem to find anything higher than an RR5 for around 700-$1,200.00 surely there is something closer to his and higher end?


          As much as I want my guitar back I think I am going to by a bass first and learn to slap it around like my little b#$% before I got back to guitar.

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          • #35
            B Strong
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor
            CGN Contributor
            • Feb 2009
            • 6367

            Originally posted by postal
            That's an issue I'm having right there..... I have quite a number of electric guitars.... but the problem is... I made them. Trying to get enough interest for a part time business making custom guitars... But not a business yet. No business ins yet.

            No one can appraise these things since they're very unusual one off customs....

            Even sent my ins pics of some of them, and while they're impressed.... they dont know what they're worth either, and refuse to insure.....

            Do you have a line on a professional musical instrument appraiser in socal?
            Norm Harris



            I'll warn you ahead of time though that although you may be as talented a builder as has come down the pike, you're in an uphill battle to document value absent documented commercial sales to use as comps.

            At most, such guitars usually are considered to have utility value only rather than an intrinsic collector value - as an example it's pretty much the difference between say an original pre-CBS Stratocaster v. a beautiful Strat made from original Fender parts along with the best aftermarket parts available - the pre-CBS unit could go in the mid five figures depending as opposed to one or two thousand at best for the franken Strat.
            The way some gunshop clerks spout off, you'd think that they invented gunpowder and the repeating rifle, and sat on the Supreme Court as well.
            ___________________________________________
            "An unarmed man can only flee from evil, and evil is not overcome by fleeing from it."
            - Jeff Cooper

            Check my current auctions on Gunbroker - user name bigbasscat - see what left California before Roberti-Roos

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            • #36
              postal
              Banned
              • Mar 2008
              • 4566

              Thanks B Strong. Appreciate it.


              Originally posted by RandyRhoads
              Hell I wish I could. I'm glad you're here...although i'm not looking at replacing my RR for a while, I was browsing to find one a little more authentic and close to what he plaid than the RR3's and such. Do you make them to the same standards with materials as Jackson? I couldn't seem to find anything higher than an RR5 for around 700-$1,200.00 surely there is something closer to his and higher end?


              As much as I want my guitar back I think I am going to by a bass first and learn to slap it around like my little b#$% before I got back to guitar.
              As a one off maker, I do what I feel like most of the time. Though I have patterns from jacksons line which I copied from their templates. Also copied the neck shape templates, and the most unusual thing about jacksons, is the 11 degree binding on the neck. I also have some fender templates, but fenders are boring...

              I have the RR, doubleneck king v, the demon and soloist (soloist is a 24fret 'superstrat' (in the picture, the purple one next to the RR) the Demon looks like a lefty since the lower horn is longer than the upper horn, but it's a righty guitar.. The blue one next to the soloist)

              The RR I made followed the original lines his first- the 'concorde' - while the current RR series is a little different, a little smaller shape. The materials and construction and the lines of this one are the same as the original, except I use laminated necks most of the time to add strength to the neck. I usually add maple or purple heart strips in the neck which makes them very rigid. I dont recall if I did a one piece mahogany neck for this, or if it was laminated with another hard wood. I prefer to laminate for safeties sake- keeps them nice and straight- no warping issues.

              This one has all brass hardware to match the original which is difficult to find and rather expensive. I made the brass pickup rings myself too which was a real PITA...

              Tim made the original RR, (I forgot his last name) He was the supervisor for jackson when I worked at fender. I interviewed with him for a position in Jackson, but unfortunately they just didnt need someone at that time. Tim retired while I was there. I also knew Mike Shannon who made the 2nd RR. I'd ask Mike and Chip Ellis (the guy who made the EVH frankenstrat copy and the wolfgang working with EVH) any questions of 'how this- why that' and they always told me anything I wanted to know. All three of them are really good guys, and are top notch builders. Jacksons are made in the fender corona factory, but are their own division- most people know a lot about the building process, where fender has an assembly line and people only know their one job.
              Last edited by postal; 10-25-2014, 12:21 PM.

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              • #37
                Sizzlechest
                Member
                • Aug 2014
                • 194

                Originally posted by RandyRhoads
                Right, but that's a one time deductible for the whole loss, not just every item correct? So if I had 80,000 worth of stuff I lost, a 1,000 deductible for 80,000 really isn't that big of a deal.

                That being said, as I mentioned I own like 5 thing so it would be a big deal now. But for the future I don't see that being an issue, unless just my rifle catches on fire lol...



                Still concerned about needing to report a destroyed firearm. Anyone have an answer to that?
                Yes, but the standard policy only has about $1500. Now if you have $80k worth of stuff you add it on the policy as scheduled and most of the time there is zero ded. for the scheduled items.

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                • #38
                  Darto
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Apr 2012
                  • 6557

                  NRA website:
                  Your NRA member benefit will be automatically upgraded to full replacement cost when you buy ArmsCare Plus Firearms Insurance. (If you haven't already, activate your No Cost ArmsCare Firearms Insurance now.)
                  Firearms valued at $2,500 or more must be scheduled. However, serial numbers are not required.
                  "Rates start at just $65 annually for $6,500 in coverage." <========

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                  • #39
                    Darto
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 6557

                    Thanks, OP, I finally broke down and bought their insurance (NRA), did not cover all of them but most of them, so still some risk. :/

                    NRA Insurance was processed by Lockton Insurance, one of the top 10 insurance companies in the world, very solid from what
                    I can see online.
                    Last edited by Darto; 11-07-2014, 5:32 AM.

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                    • #40
                      Brute
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2014
                      • 95

                      My home owners insurance only covers up to $2000.00 if stolen. I need to activate my free nra insurance as well and might need additional coverage. Do they cover ammo as well? If not, who does?

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