FUD from LEOs

[Junkie]

A friend and I went out to Panoche today to do a little shooting. My friend brought a few GI mags, which he was using in a featureless AR and an SU-16.

A BLM ranger stopped by, and complimented our backstop and made sure we weren't shooting at junk.

He was surprised to see our featureless ARs, but believed it (comparing them to the Mini 14). He complimented my friend's standard mag release, saying "your bullet button is legit".

However, he claimed that Fresno County DA would charge >10rd magazines in any weapon (pistol or rifle) as a felony, whether or not there was a bullet button.

After saying that California gun laws are stupid, and that all of our guns were clearly federally ok, he suggested that we put the 30s away in case anyone else came by. We complied, as even if you can beat the rap you can't beat the ride.


The real question that I have is whether or not anyone else had heard about the Fresno County DA charging anyone regarding this. Thanks for any info.

[StupidMoFo]

Quite the trip++++

[Sikvenum93]

Its a little doubtful as Fresno is a rural county and has a ccw friendly sheriff. But its good that the BLM ranger told you to err on the side of caution. I mean he couldve easily ratted you out or worse.

[HPBrowningMK3]

In my opinion, your job is to know the law better then the cop/deputy who stops to chat with you. Make a copy of the laws/fllow charts and keep in your gun case.

[Junkie]

I know the law, but didn't think to bring the flow chart. He didn't have an issue with the rifles, just with the magazines, and that's even though it appeared he'd never seen a featureless AR before.

Oh, and he claimed that the 2014 edition of the penal code that he had adds "keep" to the list of prohibited actions for large capacity magazines.

[HPBrowningMK3]

I know the law, but didn't think to bring the flow chart. He didn't have an issue with the rifles, just with the magazines, and that's even though it appeared he'd never seen a featureless AR before.

Oh, and he claimed that the 2014 edition of the penal code that he had adds "keep" to the list of prohibited actions for large capacity magazines.

He can claim anything he wants, but his supervisor most likely knows better.If not, time to stop talking and call your attorney. Never ever admit or give up anything.

[Junkie]

Nobody admitted to anything. He saw a 30 round magazine (that he said looked like it may have been in Vietnam) in plain sight. He saw one of us remove a magazine without tools as he was pulling up.

[StupidMoFo]

The man was very nice albiet wrong about the letter of the law. He was not hostile nor did we admit to anything. However this officer treated us with respect and in his mind was telling us the best information in his mind. Arguing with him or telling him he's wrong etc would just end in a free trip to jail. You'd have to be retarded to argue with him out in the desert. I did not feel threatened and I've had a lot of police interaction. There was no small dick syndrome either

[StupidMoFo]

We did inform to him the legality of the feature less rifles and i compared it to the keltec su16 sitting next to it which made sense to him. However he seemed adament about the 30s legality and I really don't need an arrest record for felony firearms charges. I'm sure he's misinformed due to bullet button rifles being fixed and thus limited to 10 rounds regardless. Imagine what he sees? ****in people shooting TVs with 30 round mags shoved into ar and aks on flat land with tannerite.