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  • meno377
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    • Jul 2013
    • 4911

    Striker fired capable of pulling the trigger multiple times

    That's one thing I miss about a hammer fired semiauto. I know that training today is all about tap, rack, and bang, but I got used to the fact of pulling the trigger multiple times in case of a light primer strike, or even better was on the revolver rotating cylinder for a new round. I bought my first glock in the 90's and really have gotten used to it except for if I have a misfire. I am much better now than in the past, but I am curious if any of the manufactures are ever thinking of a design on a striker fired pistol capable of multiple trigger pulls.
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    neouser
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    • Jan 2012
    • 1134

    Walther P99AS, Canik TP9, Magnum Research MR9, S&W SW99.

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      meno377
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      • Jul 2013
      • 4911

      Originally posted by neouser
      Walther P99AS, Canik TP9, Magnum Research MR9, S&W SW99.
      Thanks. Of all the models I have, I don't have any of these. I intend to check at least one of these models then.
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        aleng888
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        • Apr 2007
        • 179

        can i ask what model do you have? cause from what i understand all pistol that have a DA/SA or DAO trigger will hit or release the firing pin every time. The only pistol i know that dose not do this is the 1911 which is SAO

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          meno377
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          • Jul 2013
          • 4911

          Originally posted by aleng888
          can i ask what model do you have? cause from what i understand all pistol that have a DA/SA or DAO trigger will hit or release the firing pin every time. The only pistol i know that dose not do this is the 1911 which is SAO
          Every striker fired can either be considered DBL action or single action depending whether it cocks the striker and releases or just releases it. Same with hammer fired. What isn't common on most models is the fact that like a hammer fired pistol, if you had a misfire, you can pull the trigger again and that same round might go off the second-third time. Most striker fired pistols cannot strike a round without being racked so either you have to manually rack the slide or it will cycle itself if the round fired. The models that can strike the round multiple times without racking the slide are the ones "Neouser" mentioned above.
          Last edited by meno377; 10-02-2014, 10:26 PM.
          Originally posted by Fjold
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            ruchik
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 1189

            I have mixed feelings about the second strike capability. If the round doesn't go off the first time, I'd rather get it out of the gun and try with a new round, instead of trying to fire it again. Revolvers had that going for them, you could just rotate the cylinder and bring that next torpedo in line.

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            • #7
              Rosereader
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2014
              • 805

              What you want is a proper double action trigger. Most "Double action" pistols in the striker fired category, like the Glock, are functionally single action.

              But most of my hammer-fired guns are single action anyway.
              So I was driving home from the range and I noticed that the scent of warm steel, burnt gunpowder and lukewarm coffee combined and smelled oddly of... Peanut butter?! Man, the Hoppe's is going to my head.


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              Take half of a binocular, tape it to your rifle.

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                aleng888
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                • Apr 2007
                • 179

                Originally posted by meno377
                Every striker fired can either be considered DBL action or single action depending whether it cocks the striker and releases or just releases it. Same with hammer fired. What isn't common on most models is the fact that like a hammer fired pistol, if you had a misfire, you can pull the trigger again and that same round might go off the second-third time. Most striker fired pistols cannot strike a round without being racked so either you have to manually rack the slide or it will cycle itself if the round fired. The models that can strike the round multiple times without racking the slide are the ones "Neouser" mentioned above.
                Can you give a example of a striker fire gun that do this? cause i play with alot of them in the gun shop dry firing them with snap cap. I dont remember any that i need to rack after a dry fire.

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                  jchen76@gmail.com
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 2092

                  Technically, the HK P7 series of pistols which are striker fired with no external hammer, you don't need to rack the slide. Just let go of squeeze cocking handle and re-cock to fire.

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                  • #10
                    Merc1138
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 19742

                    Originally posted by aleng888
                    Can you give a example of a striker fire gun that do this? cause i play with alot of them in the gun shop dry firing them with snap cap. I dont remember any that i need to rack after a dry fire.
                    Uhh, pretty much every striker fired gun besides the ones that neouser listed. Glocks, M&P, xd, etc. will require you to rack the slide to be able to operate the trigger again.

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                    • #11
                      aleng888
                      Member
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 179

                      Originally posted by Merc1138
                      Uhh, pretty much every striker fired gun besides the ones that neouser listed. Glocks, M&P, xd, etc. will require you to rack the slide to be able to operate the trigger again.
                      hmm you are right, i just when try my m&p45... learn something new everyday.

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                      • #12
                        e90bmw
                        Senior Member
                        CGN Contributor
                        • May 2013
                        • 1268

                        Springfield XD pistols require a rack of the slide.

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                        • #13
                          Caseless
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2005
                          • 1650

                          This is just an archaic U.S military requirememt. Nowadays only .22LR handguns need 2nd strike capability.

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